No Need To Work, Welfare Pays Better!

Wally

BrownCafe Innovator & King of Puns
These posters are irrational. What does this even mean? Gravy train vacation. This is just I don't agree with a policy, so instead of discussing what I don't like about it, I'm just going to call the policy welfare and say its a gravy train vacation. Smh
Always pay unemployment less that what you would make working.

Plenty of people are on paid vacation due to the enhanced benefits. Once that ceases they will quickly seek a job.
 

refineryworker05

Well-Known Member
Always pay unemployment less that what you would make working.

Plenty of people are on paid vacation due to the enhanced benefits. Once that ceases they will quickly seek a job.
That's not how unemployment works. Like what are you talking about man? Seriously? You believe every person getting unemployment gets the same amount? Or that unemployment policy and pay is the same in every state?
 

refineryworker05

Well-Known Member
Or maybe people were just making more unemployment than they would actually be working.....
What does this mean? Seriously? Do you think everyone who gets unemployment gets the same amount? You can't get unemployment benefits indefinitely. You all gotta stop making up imaginary people seriously. You can look at the data about unemployment and see oh this thing I think is true has no basis in reality.


The Yale research showed that low wage workers and workers from states where unemployment benefits are lower — so those for whom the $600 supplement increased their total unemployment benefits by a bigger percentage — “did not experience larger declines in employment when the benefits expansion went into effect,” the report said.

Those unemployed people returned to their previous jobs at similar rates as others, according to the report.

“In fact, if anything, groups facing larger increases in benefit generosity experience slight gains in employment relative to the least-treated group by early May,” said the report.

Instead, the most important factor in whether people returned to work was the availability of jobs
 
What does this mean? Seriously? Do you think everyone who gets unemployment gets the same amount? You can't get unemployment benefits indefinitely. You all gotta stop making up imaginary people seriously. You can look at the data about unemployment and see oh this thing I think is true has no basis in reality.


The Yale research showed that low wage workers and workers from states where unemployment benefits are lower — so those for whom the $600 supplement increased their total unemployment benefits by a bigger percentage — “did not experience larger declines in employment when the benefits expansion went into effect,” the report said.

Those unemployed people returned to their previous jobs at similar rates as others, according to the report.

“In fact, if anything, groups facing larger increases in benefit generosity experience slight gains in employment relative to the least-treated group by early May,” said the report.

Instead, the most important factor in whether people returned to work was the availability of jobs
There again the states unemployment plus an extra $300 per week
And if you are in a low-paying job there is no incentive for you to go back to work now please go wake the friend* back up and check the facts yourself
 

refineryworker05

Well-Known Member
That people either a or make it more money on unemployment or B went to another place of employment because they don't want to get stuck in case of pandemic starts back up again
Huh? No that's not the discussion. You are saying people don't want to work because they are making too much in unemployment. I posted a study that showed unemployment pay isn't the reason people work or don't work, that it was availability of jobs.
 
Huh? No that's not the discussion. You are saying people don't want to work because they are making too much in unemployment. I posted a study that showed unemployment pay isn't the reason people work or don't work, that it was availability of jobs.
You're correct there are lots of jobs available but unfortunately they're paying less than what most people are making on unemployment with the $300 a week enhanced unemployment This will not change until it expires at the end of September
As a matter of fact it probably get to the point is pathetic as it sounds they have to pay people to go back to work
 

It will be fine

Well-Known Member
You're correct there are lots of jobs available but unfortunately they're paying less than what most people are making on unemployment with the $300 a week enhanced unemployment This will not change until it expires at the end of September
As a matter of fact it probably get to the point is pathetic as it sounds they have to pay people to go back to work
You always have to pay people to go to work. That’s the deal.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
What facts?
You've stated before that it's simple, if you want employees to stay at a job you have to pay them enough for them to want to stay. So tell me what's the incentive to go back to a job where you're grossing $400-$500 a week when, depending on the state, you can get $600-$900 a week unemployment? It's primarily the low paid frontline workers who aren't returning and employers are desperate.
 

Overpaid Union Thug

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Isn’t it refreshing as a hard-working taxpayer knowing that there are thousands of Americans and migrant workers, if not more, receiving unemployment benefits but still working? Yep! It’s really easy to. All they have to do is get a job that pays cash under the table.
 

fishtm2001

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You've stated before that it's simple, if you want employees to stay at a job you have to pay them enough for them to want to stay. So tell me what's the incentive to go back to a job where you're grossing $400-$500 a week when, depending on the state, you can get $600-$900 a week unemployment? It's primarily the low paid frontline workers who aren't returning and employers are desperate.
"It's primarily the low paid frontline workers who aren't returning and employers are desperate."

That is the GOP talking point and it's also incorrect (shocking).
 
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