No Need To Work, Welfare Pays Better!

rickyb

Well-Known Member
In your lifetime you have never seen the national debt so high, a housing bubble, a stock market bubble, huge personal debt, trillions of dollars printed vastly increasing the money supply, bitcoin mania, a silver squeeze, a border crisis, new taxes forthcoming, all coming together at once. There are well known investment advisors like Peter Schiff, Jim Rogers, and a legion of others pointing all of this out. Demographics guy named Harry Dent, who's been right about every financial crisis since the late 80's, gives a lot of reasons why we're about to fall off a cliff. He sees a depression, not recession but thinks we'll come out of it in '23. By the way the Fed recently stopped publishing some key economic stats. Anyone who thinks Modern Monetary Theory will handle any issues doesn't have a clue.
The capitalists respond to the collapse of their domestic economies, which they engineered, by becoming global loan sharks and speculators. They lend money at exorbitant interest rates to the working class and the poor, even if they know the money could never be repaid, and then sell these bundled debts, credit default swaps, bonds and stocks to pension funds, cities, investment firms and institutions. This late form of capitalism is built on what Marx called “fictitious capital.” And it leads, as Marx knew, to the vaporization of money.


Once subprime borrowers began to default, as these big banks and investment firms knew was inevitable, the global crash of 2008 took place. The government bailed out the banks, largely by printing money, but left the poor and the working class—not to mention students recently out of college—with crippling personal debt. Austerity became policy. The victims of financial fraud would be made to pay for that fraud. And what saved us from a full-blown depression was, in a tactic Marx would have found ironic, massive state intervention in the economy, including the nationalization of huge corporations such as AIG and General Motors.


What we saw in 2008 was the enactment of a welfare state for the rich, a kind of state socialism for the financial elites that Marx predicted. But with this comes an increased and volatile cycle of boom and bust, bringing the system closer to disintegration and collapse. We have undergone two major stock market crashes and the implosion of real estate prices in just the first decade of the 21st century.

 

Tom MacDonald

Max E. Pads
They've been pretty much printing money since 2008. But now it's on steroids.

Getting the public ready for UBI and a social credit score.

They're gonna put us all on like 1k a month welfare and if a drone or some Karen neighbor catches you with your mask below your nose you will receive less money that month.
 

refineryworker05

Well-Known Member
I was union for 11 years with my current employer. I trained and qualified to be a fill in for a management position, but I would only fill in when someone was on vacation or sick. Anyway they offered me and other's like me who had trained and qualified in this fill in management position to take it full time, and no one would take it. They had to hire outside people and then train them to do the job. Supervisors would complain oh no one wants the job, no one wants the responsibility, oh no one wants to work hard, etc it was all bs, the job compared to our current job didn't pay enough. I was making a lot more with OT, and that management job was straight salary no OT As soon as they significantly upped the pay, lo and behold they had a surplus of people wanting that job.

In other words, any job will be filled if you pay people. If you can't get people, its cause you aren't paying enough. Period.
 

Wally

BrownCafe Innovator & King of Puns
Now Democrats want make permanent the Increased Unemployment Pay!

Pretty sure once no prospect of employment is in the picture that is welfare. Who will work if collecting?

 
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Wally

BrownCafe Innovator & King of Puns
Now getting unemployment benefits is "welfare". By definition one has to lose a job to get unemployment. Stretching the definition of welfare to complete meaninglessness
Making more than working is welfare for sure. It's supposed to be something to help make end meet while looking for work, not a gravy train vacation.
 
Making more than working is welfare for sure. It's supposed to be something to help make end meet while looking for work, not a gravy train vacation.
Especially if you was working a part-time job. They are still getting 300 on top of their regular unemployment. And there is no incentive for those people to go back to work
 
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refineryworker05

Well-Known Member
Making more than working is welfare for sure. It's supposed to be something to help make end meet while looking for work, not a gravy train vacation.
These posters are irrational. What does this even mean? Gravy train vacation. This is just I don't agree with a policy, so instead of discussing what I don't like about it, I'm just going to call the policy welfare and say its a gravy train vacation. Smh
 
These posters are irrational. What does this even mean? Gravy train vacation. This is just I don't agree with a policy, so instead of discussing what I don't like about it, I'm just going to call the policy welfare and say its a gravy train vacation. Smh
And that's why many lower paying jobs can't find anyone to work right now

One if the gas stations that I pass on the way home has had to close a few times because the lack of staffing.

Help wanted $15 an hour and no takers.
 

refineryworker05

Well-Known Member
And that's why many lower paying jobs can't find anyone to work right now

One if the gas stations that I pass on the way home has had to close a few times because the lack of staffing.

Help wanted $15 an hour and no takers.
My position is that any job will be filled if you pay people enough money. If you can't get people to fill your position as an employer its because your competitors other employers are paying better in some way. That's it.
 
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