Nope!

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by boxmonkey3, Jul 10, 2018.

  1. boxmonkey3

    boxmonkey3 New Member

    6 months to discuss drones, self driving trucks, etc.??? The union can insist on discussing for 5 years, but if there isn’t anything in there to keep ups from replacing us with robots down the road UPS will still do it!

    Regular drivers will be replaced with combo drivers. There’s nothing stopping UPS from pushing all the work to weekends for combo drivers and cutting our routes Monday and Friday, then nailing us for 13 hour days Tuesday-Thursday. And still keep us from being able to file 9.5. And while there is some level of protection this contract, UPS will chip away at it every 5 years til we are all gone. They’ll harass us, cut hours, cut routes or whatever it takes to get rid of us.

    What happened to the excessive OT protection we were promised early in negotiations? Cutting routes isn’t a solution. What about better harassment protection we were promised?

    The only thing we get out of this is $400 more for pension.

    But between automation, combo drivers and typical attrition less than half of us will see that increase! As much as we complain about this job, it’s still a good career worth protecting.

    Vote no and. It vote out anyone that tries to sell us on this BS contract.

    Don’t be afraid to strike! UPS can afford it less than we can. A few days without pay is a lot better than looking for a job 5 years before you planned on retiring!
     
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  2. Jackburton

    Jackburton Gone Fish'n

    If everyone at my center votes the way they say, this thing is going to be a massive failure.
     
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  3. Indecisi0n

    Indecisi0n Well-Known Member

    Strike strike strike
     
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  4. Jackburton

    Jackburton Gone Fish'n

    Can the Kardashian’s go for the steal?
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  5. Nine5

    Nine5 Member

    Well said .....Hit the nail on the head#VOTENO
     
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  6. Ximun8

    Ximun8 New Member

    ☝️This dude gets it.
     
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  7. Benben

    Benben Active Member

    :censored2: it! I say we strike in December if they don't fix this arse rag of a contract!
     
  8. reginald95

    reginald95 Active Member

    NO STRIKE! so many people crying wolf with this combination driver thing. We in the west coast already have this position. It’s called Temporary Cover Driver. They have been working full-time hours taking full-time work and us Full-time drivers still have plenty of work.
     
  9. Indecisi0n

    Indecisi0n Well-Known Member

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  10. cachmeifucan

    cachmeifucan Active Member

    If robots drones and driverless cars replace us ups will save but they still have to pay our pension. Don't they?
     
  11. Box Ox

    Box Ox Well-Known Member

    Which one of these points of the Tentative Agreement are you OK with?

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  12. wide load

    wide load Starting wage is a waste of time.

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  13. boxmonkey3

    boxmonkey3 New Member

    Not if you don’t make it that far. If someone has 15 years in when their job is eliminated or their fired, they only get the 15 year pension
     
  14. cachmeifucan

    cachmeifucan Active Member

    While I highly doubt it will happen it ten years maybe past that we shall see it has to be protected in our contract
     
  15. DriveInDriveOut

    DriveInDriveOut This Is The Last Stop

    "Us full time drivers still have plenty of work"

    Well that pretty much sums up your selfishness.... You've got your's, so who cares if your Union coworkers get cheated out of the same pay you make.

    Now you're going to have temporary cover drivers AND 25% of your drivers are going to be 22.4 second class drivers. Brilliant.
     
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  16. Blackstream

    Blackstream Active Member

    So you're saying that 22.4 employees will make less, have no 9.5 protection, AND it won't do anything to reduce excessive overtime for drivers?

    SIGN ME UP!
     
  17. DOK

    DOK Well-Known Member

    Been hearing the same but people have to take the time and ACTUALLY VOTE. Not voting is essentially a yes vote.
     
  18. DOK

    DOK Well-Known Member

    Other parts of the country have this as well but the new combo drivers will work Saturday and Sunday delivering packages that would’ve been delivered Monday leaving very few packages for Monday delivery. The new combo drivers are guaranteed 40 hours, so are we “if work is available”, very different thing being proposed here.
     
  19. Indecisi0n

    Indecisi0n Well-Known Member

    I'm too busy to vote.
     
  20. Rack em

    Rack em Well-Known Member

    Putting in too many mod hours on the Brown Cafe?