% of drivers that are fired

[Hummib]

I have 2 years driving and got fired. Got job back with back pay, seems they started on me early

It sounds crazy

 

[quad decade guy]

I have 2 years driving and got fired. Got job back with back pay, seems they started on me early

Ok. This is really rare(back pay).

Tell us more. Exact details please.

 

[DVIR]

Ok. This is really rare(back pay).

Tell us more. Exact details please.

Sent in a message at 1 saying I had way to much work, way to many pickups and would have missed.
Reply message said “you’re required to finish all work you won’t get any help”.
——10:55Sheeted 40 packages missed.
—fired for “sabotage” the next working day.
Went in for a meeting with Ba, labor manager and other management.
9:00 Meeting was canceled at 10:00 (an hour late) and I was reinstated with back pay

 

[Netsua 3:16]

Sent in a message at 1 saying I had way to much work, way to many pickups and would have missed.
Reply message said “you’re required to finish all work you won’t get any help”.
——10:55Sheeted 40 packages missed.
—fired for “sabotage” the next working day.
Went in for a meeting with Ba, labor manager and other management.
9:00 Meeting was canceled at 10:00 (an hour late) and I was reinstated with back pay

Lol.
I 100% believe with no doubt

 

[quad decade guy]

Sent in a message at 1 saying I had way to much work, way to many pickups and would have missed.
Reply message said “you’re required to finish all work you won’t get any help”.
——10:55Sheeted 40 packages missed.
—fired for “sabotage” the next working day.
Went in for a meeting with Ba, labor manager and other management.
9:00 Meeting was canceled at 10:00 (an hour late) and I was reinstated with back pay

Thanks.

So, how about a little sample of the conversation in that room?

 

[DVIR]

Thanks.

So, how about a little sample of the conversation in that room?

We never got to the room. Manager just canceled the meeting and reinstated me after we all had been waiting for an hour. He said they couldn’t get the management team there. It looked really dumb.

 

[quad decade guy]

We never got to the room. Manager just canceled the meeting and reinstated me after we all had been waiting for an hour. He said they couldn’t get the management team there. It looked really dumb.

Ok.

So, you were given back pay at a random meeting? Not the panel? How long were you fired? How many hours of back pay did you get? 1 day, week, month...years?

Honestly....I've never heard of such.

I have seen countless firings turn into "suspensions"......100% not one penny of "backpay". In fact, most go to the panel and never receive backpay although reinstated.....It's never been explained why exactly. I have ALWAYS thought if a guy gets his job back....he did nothing wrong? Never understood why a guy would have to go all the way to a panel for that. Nor have I understood how many days are to be determined for a suspension. When an official suspension might be 3 days...a firing turned suspension might last 3 months.....

 

[Commercial Inside Release]

The way I read it, he got 1hr backpay, maybe a few more.

I stretched my suspension as long as I dared... When you've been gone for months, getting backpay is probably not going to happen. Getting your job back is likely, but months of pay for doing nothing, the company is going to take you to a panel hearing and fight dirty. It may backfire, then you'll be starting a new career.

I often dream of getting suspended, again. The second time around definitely be enjoyable. About six weeks off, would be the sweet spot.

 

[BadIdeaGuy]

This is curious....

Losing 6 weeks of pay.....as cavalier as some of you folks are.....that's a hefty chunk. The employees I've known to get back pay.....in 40 years...on one hand. Two fingers maybe.

Well.

If you're a steward, maybe you sucked, if they didn't get back pay upon reinstatement.
And if you're not a steward, maybe you didn't know what all was agreed to, because you didn't need to know.

Helpfully helping.

 

[Shift Inhibit]

i was fired

i asked my sup if he was going to suck my cock on the way out

or something like that...

Did sup accept and acknowledge your request?

 

[Commercial Inside Release]

Lots of small centers out there, and no one cares about them. Odds of getting the same level of representation there, as you would in a major city, is slim.

 

[rickyb]

Did sup accept and acknowledge your request?

his response was return the uniform lol

not sure if i shouldve

ppl here are on the UPS plantation so it doesnt occur to them to give advice about that

 

[NAHimGOOD]

Anyone can be fired...

Your fireable offense is what makes a man...

Or woman.

Don't want to be sexist.

 

[Commercial Inside Release]

They always tell you to turn in your browns. It must be a badge of honor handed down from corporate. Like they have a class on firing bargaining unit employees.

 

[DVIR]

Ok.

So, you were given back pay at a random meeting? Not the panel? How long were you fired? How many hours of back pay did you get? 1 day, week, month...years?

Honestly....I've never heard of such.

I have seen countless firings turn into "suspensions"......100% not one penny of "backpay". In fact, most go to the panel and never receive backpay although reinstated.....It's never been explained why exactly. I have ALWAYS thought if a guy gets his job back....he did nothing wrong? Never understood why a guy would have to go all the way to a panel for that. Nor have I understood how many days are to be determined for a suspension. When an official suspension might be 3 days...a firing turned suspension might last 3 months.....

It was about a week back pay plus penalty for getting the check to me late. We didn’t even have the meeting, management seemed to fold because i didn’t do anything wrong. The whole situation just seemed so unprofessional and disorganized

 

[burrheadd]

Ok. This is really rare(back pay).

Tell us more. Exact details please.

No , no it’s not

 

[UnionStrong]

Ok.

So, you were given back pay at a random meeting? Not the panel? How long were you fired? How many hours of back pay did you get? 1 day, week, month...years?

Honestly....I've never heard of such.

I have seen countless firings turn into "suspensions"......100% not one penny of "backpay". In fact, most go to the panel and never receive backpay although reinstated.....It's never been explained why exactly. I have ALWAYS thought if a guy gets his job back....he did nothing wrong? Never understood why a guy would have to go all the way to a panel for that. Nor have I understood how many days are to be determined for a suspension. When an official suspension might be 3 days...a firing turned suspension might last 3 months.....

 

[Yeet]

Ok.

So, you were given back pay at a random meeting? Not the panel? How long were you fired? How many hours of back pay did you get? 1 day, week, month...years?

Honestly....I've never heard of such.

I have seen countless firings turn into "suspensions"......100% not one penny of "backpay". In fact, most go to the panel and never receive backpay although reinstated.....It's never been explained why exactly. I have ALWAYS thought if a guy gets his job back....he did nothing wrong? Never understood why a guy would have to go all the way to a panel for that. Nor have I understood how many days are to be determined for a suspension. When an official suspension might be 3 days...a firing turned suspension might last 3 months.....

I have acquired quite a few friends that drive with different outfits over the years. Some of them I’ve known from middle school. Some of the things that you and I brag about that the union stepped up for us for, they laugh and say it shouldn’t even have gone that far. They have no union. UPS over polices us and we praise the union for giving us the standard that most other companies have and they don’t ever have to “go to panel” over.

 

[quad decade guy]

Well.

If you're a steward, maybe you sucked, if they didn't get back pay upon reinstatement.
And if you're not a steward, maybe you didn't know what all was agreed to, because you didn't need to know.

Helpfully helping.

It's pretty settled history that most/just about all fired folks don't get backpay here. BTW, this is generally handled by a BA or higher....not at the steward level. It's hard to imagine a new part-time clerk negotiating a guys career....

 

[quad decade guy]

I have acquired quite a few friends that drive with different outfits over the years. Some of them I’ve known from middle school. Some of the things that you and I brag about that the union stepped up for us for, they laugh and say it shouldn’t even have gone that far. They have no union. UPS over polices us and we praise the union for giving us the standard that most other companies have and they don’t ever have to “go to panel” over.

Interesting......I hear Amazon workers ROUTINELY get fired by e-mail.

So, let's say we include not just driving "outfits" but all "outfits"....

I know of lot's of people that are told "you're fired....leave the property now". No appeal, negotiation....contract.

I've given this much consideration lately. As much as UPS hates the Union and it's workforce(us).....it also counts on us everyday. Our unrecognized(by the Union) productivity.

I'd bet also they(your friends) don't , in the end, make what we do w/bennies(all that). Ask your friends about accidents or dishonesty....or just plain breaking stuff.

Just not a lot of folks making $100k out there. Driving or not.