OJS

[Indecisi0n]

Is it really a number you can be held to every day for every route? Certain city routes I cover are just always insane busy. From the people to the area it's just never ending change so where 120 is a great day today tomorrow it could be almost 2 hours longer. How are routes like this given a standard number and expected to maintain it ?

 

[Brownslave688]

Is it really a number you can be held to every day for every route? Certain city routes I cover are just always insane busy. From the people to the area it's just never ending change so where 120 is a great day today tomorrow it could be almost 2 hours longer. How are routes like this given a standard number and expected to maintain it ?

Are you talking about using an OJS to determine a fair days work?


I've seen lots of managers try. Never seen one succeed

 

[Brownslave688]

Is it really a number you can be held to every day for every route? Certain city routes I cover are just always insane busy. From the people to the area it's just never ending change so where 120 is a great day today tomorrow it could be almost 2 hours longer. How are routes like this given a standard number and expected to maintain it ?

You're a cover driver?


Lmao no there's no way they could make those numbers stand.


Here's the only way they'd stand a chance. You average 7 stops and hour for a week. Then you get an OJS and average 12 for those 3 days. Exact same area. Now 2 weeks later you're back down to 7. That's the only way it would ever stand a chance.

 

[TooTechie]

They call it a "lock in" for people they deem to have performance issues. They ride with you for 3 days to establish a spohr they see you can hit and attempt to hold you to it. Meanwhile its a fair day's work for a fair day's pay.

 

[Overpaid Union Thug]

Is it really a number you can be held to every day for every route? Certain city routes I cover are just always insane busy. From the people to the area it's just never ending change so where 120 is a great day today tomorrow it could be almost 2 hours longer. How are routes like this given a standard number and expected to maintain it ?

I'd Article 6, Section One, Paragraph One that crap. "Extra Contract Agreement"

 

[Indecisi0n]

Yes am talking about 3 day OJS. They mentioned they want to OJS me because the time/route is so inconsistent. I have it long term while guy is out with surgery.

 

[Indecisi0n]

They call it a "lock in" for people they deem to have performance issues. They ride with you for 3 days to establish a spohr they see you can hit and attempt to hold you to it. Meanwhile its a fair day's work for a fair day's pay.

Yea. I am sure I can hit it for the most part but there are a few days in a row I can't because of how the work comes down.

 

[TooTechie]

Yea. I am sure I can hit it for the most part but there are a few days in a row I can't because of how the work comes down.

Obviously if you have an OJS ride, work at a quick pace so they can't claim you're laying down, but don't use all the dozens of shortcuts you've figured out--the things that knock off 5 minutes here and 5 minutes there.

 

[cosmo1]

Yes am talking about 3 day OJS. They mentioned they want to OJS me because the time/route is so inconsistent. I have it long term while guy is out with surgery.

Can they really OJS you if it isn't your bid route? How do you do compared to the bid driver? Maybe management is really after him.

 

[superballs63]

Obviously if you have an OJS ride, work at a quick pace so they can't claim you're laying down, but don't use all the dozens of shortcuts you've figured out--the things that knock off 5 minutes here and 5 minutes there.

WRONG!!!

Work at a SAFE pace. Follow every stupid method. ALWAYS 3 points of contact, no cutting across yards, scan the package right at the consignee's door. Hide the packages nice and out of sight/weather (takes a few seconds longer than just dropping it on the porch). Stop about every 30 minutes to sort/clean up your load. Run SOLELY air first, THEN double back. Oh, and if it's hot, be sure to take some "cool down" periods to hydrate yourself.

They want to play the game, you just need to win it. It's VERY easy

 

[superballs63]

Can they really OJS you if it isn't your bid route? How do you do compared to the bid driver? Maybe management is really after him.

I would think that if he's taking it for the foreseeable future, then yes, they can OJS him.

Compare?

Bossman: "Bill can do 180 stops and his pickups and be done by 430, what do you have to say to that?"

Driver: "I'm not Bill."

 

[ManInBrown]

no cutting across yards,

This is the biggest one right here. On-Car will try to get you to walk across every lawn. Do not do it. It's not the methods.

 

[Orion inc.]

WRONG!!!

Work at a SAFE pace. Follow every stupid method. ALWAYS 3 points of contact, no cutting across yards, scan the package right at the consignee's door. Hide the packages nice and out of sight/weather (takes a few seconds longer than just dropping it on the porch). Stop about every 30 minutes to sort/clean up your load. Run SOLELY air first, THEN double back. Oh, and if it's hot, be sure to take some "cool down" periods to hydrate yourself.

They want to play the game, you just need to win it. It's VERY easy

And use your handcart like crazy

 

[cosmo1]

Bossman: "Bill can do 180 stops and his pickups and be done by 430, what do you have to say to that?"

Driver: "I'm not Bill."

Maybe, just maybe, Inde is doing better than Bill, and management wants to jack Bill up when he returns.

@Indecisi0n, talk to the bid driver and find out how close he is to the 'numbers'

 

[TooTechie]

WRONG!!!

Work at a SAFE pace. Follow every stupid method. ALWAYS 3 points of contact, no cutting across yards, scan the package right at the consignee's door. Hide the packages nice and out of sight/weather (takes a few seconds longer than just dropping it on the porch). Stop about every 30 minutes to sort/clean up your load. Run SOLELY air first, THEN double back. Oh, and if it's hot, be sure to take some "cool down" periods to hydrate yourself.

They want to play the game, you just need to win it. It's VERY easy

If you read pretty much every post I've ever made on BC I always say to work at a safe steady pace. My point is to make it look like he's working with a sense of urgency so they stop busting his chops, but in actuality he's getting even less done than he normally does in the same time by not using all the time saving tricks he's learned.

On one route I used to run I could cut through a business' back gravel lot to cut over to another street that saved three miles and about 10-15 minutes. Orion and on-cars didn't know about it so when I had an Orion weenie with me I went the normal way, then went my way when they weren't with me so I always beat their time and beat Orion's mileage.

 

[superballs63]

If you read pretty much every post I've ever made on BC I always say to work at a safe pace. My point is to make it look like he's working with a sense of urgency so they stop busting his chops,

Who cares if they bust his chops? If you do the job the way they tell you to, they can bust all they want, you just tell them to shutup and continue on with your day

 

[alwaysoverallowed]

If they say you need to speed up or its only blah, blah, blah seconds between blah, blah, blah just tell them you are working at a speed conducive to safety

Article 37 is your friend read it before your OJS the part about age and physical limitations can be grieved

 

[9.5er]

Couple years ago I was threatened by a Sup by being "locked in" for 3 days. I told him to grab his lunch box and come on. This all came about because I was over allowed every time I covered a certain route. To this day I still an over allowed on that route. Along with every one else that runs it. It is a suck route with a suck time allowance.

 

[FilingBluesFL]

Make sure you have photos of your load.

Typically when an OJS is done, the load is magically nicer, and there's room to walk down the center of the car.

Crazy how that works.

Last ride I had, supervisor was out with me until almost 10pm. He was not happy, but didn't really have anything on me. When I was working safe, he kept calling it "delay tactics."

Every time he would try to talk to me while the wheels were rolling, I'd pull the car off the road, park it, and then after it was secured with flashers on, I'd ask him, "What would you like to discuss now that it is safe to do so and I am no longer in driving and my safety won't be compromised."

 

[superballs63]

Every time he would try to talk to me while the wheels were rolling, I'd pull the car off the road, park it, and then after it was secured with flashers on, I'd ask him, "What would you like to discuss now that it is safe to do so and I am no longer in driving and my safety won't be compromised."

Yep, talking behind the wheel is a huge distraction, especially if being asked to recite useless drivel