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It will be fine

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It's the scientists providing the headlines.


If it's so complex and is dependent on so many constantly changing inputs that it produces so many crap results, of what use is it? I'm a patient guy, but the science said melting arctic ice and devastating floods and I was not given either.
Scientists are not writing the headlines of your news articles. You are either more confused than I thought or are just being obviously dishonest, my guess is the latter.
 

AB831

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Scientists are not writing the headlines of your news articles. You are either more confused than I thought or are just being obviously dishonest, my guess is the latter.
Just a hilariously stupid comment from the guy who thinks he knows everything. He’s more articulate than most of the yokels on here repeating the same talking points, but if you actually start to debate him on any topic, he quickly reveals himself to know very little about anything and then relies on condescension and arrogance to overcompensate.
 

qdg2

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Scientists are not writing the headlines of your news articles. You are either more confused than I thought or are just being obviously dishonest, my guess is the latter.
Well....let's review....

There are climate summits, Al Gore, Greta T......Fauci ad nauseam...

Greta T. , AOC scream 12 years! Al Gore: We must trade carbon credits of which I have billions......

Mainstream let-wing media(Democrats) SCREAM 12 YEARS!

Yet, I never see any "scientists" say...."Now hang on a sec....." "it's a complicated process......."

Nary a one.

So, the scientist's are without debate....left-wing communist/socialist/liberal Democrats. This is settled history.

So, where are they? Where do Greta T. AOC and Al Gore get their "headlines"? Well, they are talking to scientist's.....see?

You are either highly partisan or just obviously intellectually dishonest. I suspect....both.

Think hard on this one......Has it ever occurred(to you) that these folks have an agenda? Perhaps other than "saving our planet"?
 

Thebrownblob

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Just a hilariously stupid comment from the guy who thinks he knows everything. He’s more articulate than most of the yokels on here repeating the same talking points, but if you actually start to debate him on any topic, he quickly reveals himself to know very little about anything and then relies on condescension and arrogance to overcompensate.
Interesting, because That really sounded condescending and arrogant.
 

vantexan

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Just a hilariously stupid comment from the guy who thinks he knows everything. He’s more articulate than most of the yokels on here repeating the same talking points, but if you actually start to debate him on any topic, he quickly reveals himself to know very little about anything and then relies on condescension and arrogance to overcompensate.
Now you leave Bacha alone! He can't help it.
 

It will be fine

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Well....let's review....

There are climate summits, Al Gore, Greta T......Fauci ad nauseam...

Greta T. , AOC scream 12 years! Al Gore: We must trade carbon credits of which I have billions......

Mainstream let-wing media(Democrats) SCREAM 12 YEARS!

Yet, I never see any "scientists" say...."Now hang on a sec....." "it's a complicated process......."

Nary a one.

So, the scientist's are without debate....left-wing communist/socialist/liberal Democrats. This is settled history.

So, where are they? Where do Greta T. AOC and Al Gore get their "headlines"? Well, they are talking to scientist's.....see?

You are either highly partisan or just obviously intellectually dishonest. I suspect....both.

Think hard on this one......Has it ever occurred(to you) that these folks have an agenda? Perhaps other than "saving our planet"?
You think the opposition to renewable energy comes from people without an agenda? That’s not a great argument.
 

vantexan

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You think the opposition to renewable energy comes from people without an agenda? That’s not a great argument.
The opposition comes from lacking the technology necessary to take us off oil and be dependent on renewables. And insisting it can only happen a certain way. No nuclear. And somehow social justice is figured into the mix in order to completely rework the energy depended on. So yes, there's an agenda that drives those wanting to keep oil as the primary fuel of our economy. They don't want to destroy the economy proving how wrong you are. Now hit me with the funny faces.
 

It will be fine

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The opposition comes from lacking the technology necessary to take us off oil and be dependent on renewables. And insisting it can only happen a certain way. No nuclear. And somehow social justice is figured into the mix in order to completely rework the energy depended on. So yes, there's an agenda that drives those wanting to keep oil as the primary fuel of our economy. They don't want to destroy the economy proving how wrong you are. Now hit me with the funny faces.
Like I said, not a great argument. The people that want us to stay on oil are oil companies. Their agenda is clear and obviously greed. This isn’t complicated.
 

AB831

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The opposition comes from lacking the technology necessary to take us off oil and be dependent on renewables. And insisting it can only happen a certain way. No nuclear. And somehow social justice is figured into the mix in order to completely rework the energy depended on. So yes, there's an agenda that drives those wanting to keep oil as the primary fuel of our economy. They don't want to destroy the economy proving how wrong you are. Now hit me with the funny faces.
That’s actually a good point. I need to go to work to pay my bills. I can’t afford a Tesla and public transportation is a joke. Unless they can incentivize a more eco-friendly way of doing every day things, myself and everyone like me will continue doing what we do. The onus is on the government to act and not just talk.
 

vantexan

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Like I said, not a great argument. The people that want us to stay on oil are oil companies. Their agenda is clear and obviously greed. This isn’t complicated.
A lot of companies depend on oil. Do we have the technology and supporting grid to keep Ground running on electric? Everyone else? You can develop a grid and the vehicles over time(hopefully). We are nowhere near that now. Do we have to destroy the economy to prove that?
 

qdg2

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You think the opposition to renewable energy comes from people without an agenda? That’s not a great argument.
Never said they didn't.

So, you basically admitted your folks do have another agenda....wow. That's not a great argument.

Say, what is a "great argument"? Climate change fanatics are destroying the planet in just different ways. Destroying eco- systems in search of toxic metals for batteries. Wind turbines filling landfills. Liberals flying globally in their gas guzzling private jets. Child and slave labor as their economic engine.....Teaming with the Chinese to rape the planet......

I asked you-have you ever considered your climate gods have another agenda hiding behind tear jerking headlines...? Like communism? That communism/socialism is the answer......"We must reduce freedoms and rights!" "Only certain groups will have private transportation(rich liberals and the Party).....the rest......public transportation....maybe.
 

AB831

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A lot of companies depend on oil. Do we have the technology and supporting grid to keep Ground running on electric? Everyone else? You can develop a grid and the vehicles over time(hopefully). We are nowhere near that now. Do we have to destroy the economy to prove that?
That’s another good point. If they said “we want to phase out gasoline cars by 2060 and spend the meantime working on the grid and the infrastructure,” you’d get almost no pushback. But instead, they give pipe dream goals like 2030 for the end of carbon emissions and demonize anyone who understandably laughs at such an infeasible goal and people just tune it out and stop caring.
 

qdg2

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Like I said, not a great argument. The people that want us to stay on oil are oil companies. Their agenda is clear and obviously greed. This isn’t complicated.
The people pushing Teslas are liberals. Their agenda is clear and obviously greed....I mean the owner is one of the richest persons on the planet......yes?

This isn't complicated.

Like I said, not a great argument.

In high liberal fashion....you rip the other side and then do the very same thing you rip them for......greed. Ok for liberals not ok for conservatives. Some of the richest people on the planet are.....liberals/Democrats/communists/socialists.
 

AB831

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Never said they didn't.

So, you basically admitted your folks do have another agenda....wow. That's not a great argument.

Say, what is a "great argument"? Climate change fanatics are destroying the planet in just different ways. Destroying eco- systems in search of toxic metals for batteries. Wind turbines filling landfills. Liberals flying globally in their gas guzzling private jets. Child and slave labor as their economic engine.....Teaming with the Chinese to rape the planet......

I asked you-have you ever considered your climate gods have another agenda hiding behind tear jerking headlines...? Like communism? That communism/socialism is the answer......"We must reduce freedoms and rights!" "Only certain groups will have private transportation(rich liberals and the Party).....the rest......public transportation....maybe.
Absolutely no one supports communism. Quiet down and let the adults talk.
 

qdg2

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That’s another good point. If they said “we want to phase out gasoline cars by 2060 and spend the meantime working on the grid and the infrastructure,” you’d get almost no pushback. But instead, they give pipe dream goals like 2030 for the end of carbon emissions and demonize anyone who understandably laughs at such an infeasible goal and people just tune it out and stop caring.
Wait.....these are your people. You voted for this. Begged for it. Willing to destroy America for it. If you voted for Democrats, you voted for exactly this. "They" is you!
 

qdg2

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Absolutely no one supports communism. Quiet down and let the adults talk.
You are an admitted liberal Democrat. Said so after 2020. Anything left-wing(Democrat) supports communism/socialism. You artfully didn't say socialism. Nice try. There is no difference. Uh Bernie?

Quiet down and be an adult and admit it.
 

vantexan

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That’s another good point. If they said “we want to phase out gasoline cars by 2060 and spend the meantime working on the grid and the infrastructure,” you’d get almost no pushback. But instead, they give pipe dream goals like 2030 for the end of carbon emissions and demonize anyone who understandably laughs at such an infeasible goal and people just tune it out and stop caring.
Unfortunately if it becomes the law there's going to be huge upheaval. I think the mandates passed by California are going to seriously hurt their businesses and drive more companies(tax base)away.
 

AB831

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You are an admitted liberal Democrat. Said so after 2020. Anything left-wing(Democrat) supports communism/socialism. You artfully didn't say socialism. Nice try. There is no difference. Uh Bernie?

Quiet down and be an adult and admit it.
There’s a huge difference. Ever take an eighth grade government class?
 
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