Panel Decisions “On Topic”

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by DoingTheRightThing, Nov 16, 2019.

  1. DoingTheRightThing

    DoingTheRightThing New Member

    I’m a 12 1/2 year twilight worker. I have been setting up different work areas over the years for around 8 years. I got a new hub manager at the end of May and things continued somewhat normal and then all of a sudden (around the second week of October) I was told I was no longer allowed to set up because I didn’t work in that area because “I’m going to make them go by the contract now” So the manager found a junior employee that has been setting up. The manager is saying it is area seniority and not hub seniority. I’ve filed 24 grievances for a junior employee performing extra work under article 49.1 because there are no skilled jobs anymore and everyone in the building is classified the same and the manager wouldn’t settle! It went to the panel this past week and a steward (not official from the BA that presented the case) told me Thursday that it was deadlocked and he said that means I won but the company is still refusing to pay. My question is if it’s a deadlock did I win? And if I did win I know the penalty pay is after 10 days and is half your guarantee. Is the half guarantee per day or per week? And if it’s after what article do I file for for the penalty pay?
     
  2. gorilla75jdw

    gorilla75jdw Active Member

    Its " once " per week , continue with the article 17 once per week until you have been compensated in full . I had the same issue a few years back , filed , and won . Filed again on penalty pay after not receiving any resolute pay , and I didnt say a word about ever again , just kept my mouth shut . What should of been a $35.00 payment , ended up being a $1,000.00 and some change due to management's poor inactions . Good luck brother , sounds like a much needed company funded "all inclusive" vacation to the Caribbean is needed ,( that's what I did) lol .
     
  3. DoingTheRightThing

    DoingTheRightThing New Member

     
  4. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Well-Known Member

    How long does set up take? 5 minutes? 10?
     
  5. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    I believe the Hub allows 20 minutes per belt for set up. Includes such things as sweeping out the trailers and pulling out any left over pallets.
     
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  6. silenze

    silenze Lunch is the best part of the day

    Deadlocked means you did not win. It was a tie. Your ba needs to take it to the next level hearing.
     
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  7. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    I would contact your BA. I don't believe deadlocked means you've won. I believe the next step would be Arbitration.
     
  8. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Well-Known Member

    Deadlocked means neither side won.
     
  9. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    Yes I agree but his steward is saying he won because it was deadlocked
     
  10. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Well-Known Member

    Stuart is wrong.
     
  11. DoingTheRightThing

    DoingTheRightThing New Member

    The setup is 30 minutes a day so as of now it’s 12 hours worth of grievances
     
  12. DoingTheRightThing

    DoingTheRightThing New Member

    So what is the next level if it wasn’t a win
     
  13. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Well-Known Member

    Binding arbitration.
     
  14. DoingTheRightThing

    DoingTheRightThing New Member

    So how long does that take? And do I have a fair shot?
     
  15. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

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    If he wants to be paid for everyday that his seniority was violated he files for every occasion. Though he could have filed 1 grievance for each week but he probably didn't know that and his steward didn't tell him.
     
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  16. DoingTheRightThing

    DoingTheRightThing New Member

    The BA told me to file one for each day instead of putting 5 on one grievance
     
  17. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    No, each subsequent grievance increases the Company's liability and is critical to ultimately being made whole.

    ....and if the Company wants to limit it's liability, it can stop the perceived violation until the issue is settled.

    You didn't know what you were talking about in the union arena when you were working, and now that you retired, you are even more ignorant.
     
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  18. DoingTheRightThing

    DoingTheRightThing New Member

    Exactly the BA said it would get more attention with 24 instead of just having a couple
     
  19. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Well-Known Member

    At best, you file one per week------filing one per day is a waste of everyone's time, especially for such a trivial issue.
     
  20. DoingTheRightThing

    DoingTheRightThing New Member

    Trivial to you I guess. You must like giving others your money and letting management hold you to different standard than themselves? If your not worried about 2.5 hours per week I’ll send you my address and you can just mail me that part of your check
     
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