President Biden

DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
Very true... Where is kamala?
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El Correcto

god is dead
One can already see on this board that the afghanistan focus is lessing everyday. In a couple of months no one will be thinking about afghanistan. It will be viewed as a good thing we got out of afghanistan.
There’s not much left to say about it. We aren’t deranged in the head like you anti-trump types. Biden :censored2: the bed, it’s the worse move I’ve ever seen in my life. Someone was finally stupid enough to actually do it.
 

PT Car Washer

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One can already see on this board that the afghanistan focus is lessing everyday. In a couple of months no one will be thinking about afghanistan. It will be viewed as a good thing we got out of afghanistan.
Should have left 10 years ago. The results would be the same. Only a bunch of deranged Marxist chicken hawks thinks we should stayed another 20 years.
 

refineryworker05

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There’s not much left to say about it. We aren’t deranged in the head like you anti-trump types. Biden :censored2: the bed, it’s the worse move I’ve ever seen in my life. Someone was finally stupid enough to actually do it.
Yeah this isn't about Biden. My point is Americans don't give a friend about afghanistan and this wont be a story in two months because the public doesn't care.
 

refineryworker05

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Should have left 10 years ago. The results would be the same. Only a bunch of deranged Marxist chicken hawks thinks we should stayed another 20 years.
You think the war in Afghanistan was started by "marxists"? You think the people who want to stay in Afghanistan are marxists?
Just an irrational view of objective reality.
 

PT Car Washer

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So you think Barack Obama would have also caused a disastrous withdrawal and abandoned Americans and allies to die at the hands of terrorists.

Okay. You're probably right about that.
President Obama moved in a 100,000 troops. Occupied the entire country and chased the Taliban across the border into Pakistan. trump reduced the troop level to 2,500 surrendered to the Taliban and turned the country over to the terrorist. Try reading something besides Mein Kampf.
 

Ou812fu

Polishing toilet bowls since 1966.
President Obama moved in a 100,000 troops. Occupied the entire country and chased the Taliban across the border into Pakistan. trump reduced the troop level to 2,500 surrendered to the Taliban and turned the country over to the terrorist. Try reading something besides Mein Kampf.
Can you stick up for this??

Emails Confirm US State Department Blocked Private Flights in and Out of Afghanistan
 

Box Ox

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trump reduced the troop level to 2,500 surrendered to the Taliban and turned the country over to the terrorist.


The number of US troops in Afghanistan was down to 2,500 on January 15. Biden said the US would pull out in a "safe and orderly way" on March 25.

What do you believe happened after that?
 

PT Car Washer

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The number of US troops in Afghanistan was down to 2,500 on January 15. Biden said the US would pull out in a "safe and orderly way" on March 25.

What do you believe happened after that?
President Biden wants to pull America out of a quagmire so he can focus our military on China. Afghanistan was a disaster. You bomb the poppy fields and the farmers join the Taliban. You leave the poppy fields and the Taliban taxes the profits to pay their fighters. You have the farmers plant wheat and the Taliban uses the fertilizer to make explosives. It's a no win situation.
 

Box Ox

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President Biden wants to pull America out of a quagmire so he can focus our military on China. Afghanistan was a disaster. You bomb the poppy fields and the farmers join the Taliban. You leave the poppy fields and the Taliban taxes the profits to pay their fighters. You have the farmers plant wheat and the Taliban uses the fertilizer to make explosives. It's a no win situation.

You leave Bagram open and the 2,500 US troops in Afghanistan until all Americans and SIV-eligible Afghan partners and their families are out.

Too much to ask for? Our NATO/European allies don't seem to think so.
 

newfie

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President Obama moved in a 100,000 troops. Occupied the entire country and chased the Taliban across the border into Pakistan. trump reduced the troop level to 2,500 surrendered to the Taliban and turned the country over to the terrorist. Try reading something besides Mein Kampf.
not true . If Obama had chased those troops into pakistan he could have finished them off. Instead he allowed them to escape into Pakistan and then tried to rely on diplomatic means to encourage Pakistan to fight them. Obviously that did not work and the Taliban was able to rebuild in pakistan.
While Obama increased the offensive he lost the momentum and the Taliban was regaining its foothold in Afghanistan when Obama left office.

Instead of picking a president to exalt or condemn based on politics we should look at the generals in this one. That does not deny presidential responsibility but every General and Sec def we've ever had in that country has sent glowing reports each year of how we are making significant progress in that country. Yet we basically ended up gaining and losing the same ground many times over a 20 year period.
 

PT Car Washer

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not true . If Obama had chased those troops into pakistan he could have finished them off. Instead he allowed them to escape into Pakistan and then tried to rely on diplomatic means to encourage Pakistan to fight them. Obviously that did not work and the Taliban was able to rebuild in pakistan.
While Obama increased the offensive he lost the momentum and the Taliban was regaining its foothold in Afghanistan when Obama left office.

Instead of picking a president to exalt or condemn based on politics we should look at the generals in this one. That does not deny presidential responsibility but every General and Sec def we've ever had in that country has sent glowing reports each year of how we are making significant progress in that country. Yet we basically ended up gaining and losing the same ground many times over a 20 year period.
I imagine you are pretty good at shifting gears and driving a big truck. Stick with that.
 

vantexan

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President Obama moved in a 100,000 troops. Occupied the entire country and chased the Taliban across the border into Pakistan. trump reduced the troop level to 2,500 surrendered to the Taliban and turned the country over to the terrorist. Try reading something besides Mein Kampf.
When Obama left office he had 8400 troops in Afghanistan. The U.S. did very little fighting from 2014 on. That was turned over to the Afghan Army with our air support. Try as you might you're not going to deflect from Biden making what is likely the stupidest decision made by a president and that's saying something.
 
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