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newfie

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refineryworker05 said:
But what's interesting is where the republican party is headed. I think the republican party is a post policy political party at least at the national level. I occasionally listen to national elected republicans speak and it is always fake culture war bs over face book, or wearing masks or now fake voter fraud bs or accusing someone of being anti American, or for socialism, and its the same bs over and over.
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MAGA bitch
 
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Box Ox

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refineryworker05 said:
all mfers want to do is pretend. You are pretending that communism is on the rise in the Democratic Party to justify pretending both sides are equally as radical, but based on what? Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, and Chuck Schumer? Those are the political leaders of the Democratic Party in national politics. Democratic voters Picked Biden. democratic members of the house and the senate picked Pelosi and Schumer. Communists are not picking those three people to be their party’s leadership.
We have a ton of big cities with democratic mayors, over 20 states with democratic governors which ones are quoting Karl Marx talking about making the city or state a communist haven? The belief that democrats are embracing Marxism is devoid of quoting actual elected democrats, but trump with the silence or approval of republican elected officials is right now trying to steal an election he lost. seven million more Americans voted for Biden than voted for trump that’s not close. It doesn’t get any more radical than that.
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Wrong. Even leftist newsrooms packed with young Marxist college graduates no longer care if everyone knows they and the candidates they support hate America and capitalism. Because their truth is the absolute truth.

From The Washington Post 5 days ago regarding Raphael Warnock, current candidate for a US senate seat in Georgia:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...-warnock-might-be-too-radical-georgia-senate/

Raphael Warnock might really be too radical for Georgia​

"....part of Warnock’s problem as a candidate: He genuinely believes that America is a fallen, corrupt nation, befouled by racism and besmirched by capitalism. He makes that crystal clear in his 2013 book, “The Divided Mind of the Black Church,” in which he praises Marxism and castigates “white capitalistic forces.” That’s the common thread that holds his writings and his sermons together, and no degree of eloquence or number of cute ads can disguise that fact.

One sees this most clearly in how he speaks about the man he labels as his mentor, the late James Hal Cone. Cone was a controversial Black theologian who labeled White Christians as racist and White Christianity as “the Antichrist” — that is, an evil ruler who corrupts the world.

Warnock cannot easily separate himself from Cone, given that he was so close to the man that Cone chose him to give his eulogy. That speech, given in New York City’s famed Riverside Church in 2018, showed Warnock still revered his teacher and endorsed his more controversial beliefs. He even referred to “the machinery of the American empire,” as if the United States were an evil empire on par with the truly abominable regimes of history. The progressive Manhattan audience might have lapped it up, but suburban Atlanta is not the Upper West Side’s political clone."
 
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refineryworker05

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Box Ox said:
Wrong. Even leftist newsrooms packed with young Marxist college graduates no longer care if everyone knows they and the candidates they support hate America and capitalism. Because their truth is the absolute truth.

From The Washington Post 5 days ago regarding Raphael Warnock, current candidate for a US senate seat in Georgia:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...-warnock-might-be-too-radical-georgia-senate/

Raphael Warnock might really be too radical for Georgia​

"....part of Warnock’s problem as a candidate: He genuinely believes that America is a fallen, corrupt nation, befouled by racism and besmirched by capitalism. He makes that crystal clear in his 2013 book, “The Divided Mind of the Black Church,” in which he praises Marxism and castigates “white capitalistic forces.” That’s the common thread that holds his writings and his sermons together, and no degree of eloquence or number of cute ads can disguise that fact.

One sees this most clearly in how he speaks about the man he labels as his mentor, the late James Hal Cone. Cone was a controversial Black theologian who labeled White Christians as racist and White Christianity as “the Antichrist” — that is, an evil ruler who corrupts the world.

Warnock cannot easily separate himself from Cone, given that he was so close to the man that Cone chose him to give his eulogy. That speech, given in New York City’s famed Riverside Church in 2018, showed Warnock still revered his teacher and endorsed his more controversial beliefs. He even referred to “the machinery of the American empire,” as if the United States were an evil empire on par with the truly abominable regimes of history. The progressive Manhattan audience might have lapped it up, but suburban Atlanta is not the Upper West Side’s political clone."
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Oh man so many thoughts. So first I see where you are coming from. “Leftist newsrooms packed with young Marxist college grads. But let’s use your logic, the Washingtonpost is full of marxists, and Warnock is a Marxist, but they’d write an article with the title warnock is too radical for Georgia? Also that article is behind a paywall. Are you helping to pay the salaries of all those leftists and college graduate Marxists at the Washington post? Did you actually read the article? Do you know who wrote the article? The person who wrote the article is named Henry Olsen. Henry Olsen was giving his opinion as a self identified Republican and conservative. So your “proof” that democrats are becoming communists is an opinion article, that’s behind a paywall in a newspaper that in your belief is staffed by leftists and college graduate Marxists, but the article is written by a self identified conservative who interprets a passage in a book I doubt you have ever read. That’s your proof? This is wishcasting man. This is evidence of a person deeply not wanting to know. This is just you pretending. Carry on.
 
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refineryworker05

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fishtm2001 said:
7.1 million and counting
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The vast majority of American voters in 2 presidential elections didn’t vote for trump to be president. In two elections, 54% of American voters did not vote for trump to be president. Across two elections a combined 10 million more Americans voted for trump’s main competitors than who voted for trump. republicans are trying to overturn an election for a deeply unpopular president who has never had the support of the majority of American voters. this is all deeply anti small d democratic. Either we believe in representative government or we don’t. trump has never had the backing of the majority of American voters as evidenced by two elections in which he failed to receive the majority of votes.
 
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fishtm2001

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refineryworker05 said:
The vast majority of American voters in 2 presidential elections didn’t vote for trump to be president. In two elections, 54% of American voters did not vote for trump to be president. Across two elections a combined 10 million more Americans voted for trump’s main competitors than who voted for trump. republicans are trying to overturn an election for a deeply unpopular president who has never had the support of the majority of American voters. this is all deeply anti small d democratic. Either we believe in representative government or we don’t. trump has never had the backing of the majority of American voters as evidenced by two elections in which he failed to receive the majority of votes.
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It's easy to see why the GOP loves the electoral college so much. It's been their only path to victory for a while now.
 
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refineryworker05

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fishtm2001 said:
It's easy to see why the GOP loves the electoral college so much. It's been their only path to victory for a while now.
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Yeah since 1992, no democratic nominee for president has failed to get at least 48% of the vote since B. Clinton back in 1992 when Perot ran as a strong 3rd party candidate, my mom voted for Perot. Gore, Kerry, and H. Clinton all received just over 48% over the votes. B. Clinton got 49% of the vote in 96. Obama received 53% and 51% of the votes in 2008 and 2012 and Biden received 51% of the vote in 2020. And the only Republican to crack 50% of the vote in the last 30years is GWBush in 2004. And trump never cracked above 46% of the vote in two elections.
 
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refineryworker05

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I keep stressing the election totals because it goes with my other point that what’s at the core political ideology of Republican voters is the belief that millions of other Americans aren’t real Americans and they shouldn’t be able to vote and direct the political future of this nation. If Republican voters viewed all other Americans as equals, then trump not receiving anywhere near the majority of the votes of their fellow Americans would give them pause in trying over turn an election in which he received 7million fewer total votes than Biden. It would give them pause on his actual popularity with the public, but when you believe millions of other Americans are not legitimate, it is easy to ignore their votes, believe they cheated, and act like their political opinions don’t count or matter.
 
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vantexan

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refineryworker05 said:
I keep stressing the election totals because it goes with my other point that what’s at the core political ideology of Republican voters is the belief that millions of other Americans aren’t real Americans and they shouldn’t be able to vote and direct the political future of this nation. If Republican voters viewed all other Americans as equals, then trump not receiving anywhere near the majority of the votes of their fellow Americans would give them pause in trying over turn an election in which he received 7million fewer total votes than Biden. It would give them pause on his actual popularity with the public, but when you believe millions of other Americans are not legitimate, it is easy to ignore their votes, believe they cheated, and act like their political opinions don’t count or matter.
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No one, but no one, believes certain Americans aren't Americans. That's a fantasy in your head.
 

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