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[Jkloc420]

Gettysburg is a civil war battlefield.
This statue was put up in the 1920's.
So I'm not sure how your comparison is relative.

yes, there are confederate monuments there. People will want them removed

 

[Jkloc420]

Gettysburg is a civil war battlefield.
This statue was put up in the 1920's.
So I'm not sure how your comparison is relative.

now you get the point, where does it stop and where does it end. Anything deemed insensitive can be removed

 

[refineryworker05]

the govenment shot them up

Still defending good ole black people were better off as slaves and alleged tax cheat Cliven Bundy whose sons and supporters took over a federal building and pulled guns and threatened federal agents.

Oh I thought you were against breaking the law and violence or threatening violence against law enforcement... Why do you like Cliven Bundy?

 

[Jkloc420]

Still defending good ole black people were better off as slaves and alleged tax cheat Cliven Bundy whose sons and supporters took over a federal building and pulled guns and threatened federal agents.

Oh I thought you were against breaking the law and violence or threatening violence against law enforcement... Why do you like Cliven Bundy?

im talking about the people in orgeon. The guy they shot on the side of the road. I dont know too much about cliven bundy, only the stand off thing

 

[refineryworker05]

if your giving one group a cop presence you have to do it with the other

What are you talking about?

 

[Jkloc420]

Still defending good ole black people were better off as slaves and alleged tax cheat Cliven Bundy whose sons and supporters took over a federal building and pulled guns and threatened federal agents.

Oh I thought you were against breaking the law and violence or threatening violence against law enforcement... Why do you like Cliven Bundy?

those are also feds, which is entirely differnt then local cops

 

[Jkloc420]

What are you talking about?

different rules for different groups

 

[Jkloc420]

the feds also burned down waco

 

[DriveInDriѵeOut]

now you get the point, where does it stop and where does it end. Anything deemed insensitive can be removed

Through a democratic process, yes. That's how this country works.

 

[Jkloc420]

Through a democratic process, yes. That's how this country works.

id be pissed if they started removing stuff from ghettysburge but it is coming and i know it

 

[refineryworker05]

im talking about the people in orgeon. The guy they shot on the side of the road. I dont know too much about cliven bundy, only the stand off thing

What are you talking about?

I mention Cliven Bundy and then out of the blue you post the government shot them up and then I respond like why are you defending Cliven Bundy and you post I don't know much about Cliven Bundy, but I am talking about some issue in Oregon that you also don't know much about.

How does this make logical sense to you as a discussion?

 

[Jkloc420]

Through a democratic process, yes. That's how this country works.

tgey are also removing and renaming things because jefferson had slaves

 

[DriveInDriѵeOut]

id be if they started removing stuff from ghettysburge but it is coming and i know it

Dude. No it's not.
Relax lol.

 

[Jkloc420]

What are you talking about?

I mention Cliven Bundy and then out of the blue you post the government shot them up and then I respond like why are you defending Cliven Bundy and you post I don't know much about Cliven Bundy, but I am talking about some issue in Oregon that you also don't know much about.

How does this make logical sense to you as a discussion?

im saying they shot them up, i wasnt defending him, just saying what happened, just a general response with no meaning

 

[Jkloc420]

Dude. No it's not.
Relax lol.

we shall see

 

[Jkloc420]

now 100 percent dylan roof was a racist and he should get the needle

 

[refineryworker05]

oh I'm sure someone was......there was everything there yesterday.....'cept those that have the sense to stay home and let the crazies go at it.

So your position on yesterday was anyone who went to protest Nazis and white supremacists and removing confederate statues were all part of the crazies?

I mean I really really don't understand this line of thinking.

Question

Is it ok for people to protest Nazis and white supremacist and confederate statues and be considered non crazy by you?
Again this line of thinking is what Nazi's and confederates want. Hey everyone was crazy so whose to say who was in the right really.

I am sure an awful lot of the people down there were protesting both the Nazis and white supremacists and removing a confederate statue.

 

[refineryworker05]

members of the organization

Huh?

 

[refineryworker05]

slavery was one of the issues, and a lot of the statues came after the civil war after reconstruction

Slavery was the main issue. I'd say really the only issue but that's too reductive. Again this is not a debate, the actual history that you say you don't want erased, the leaders of the confederacy said he this is all about slavery there is no ambiguity on this.

I don't care when they were built, they can be removed and should be removed.

 

[Jkloc420]

Slavery was the main issue. I'd say really the only issue but that's too reductive. Again this is not a debate, the actual history that you say you don't want erased, the leaders of the confederacy said he this is all about slavery there is no ambiguity on this.

I don't care when they were built, they can be removed and should be removed.

victors right history, there were other issues