Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by MenInBrown, Dec 8, 2018.

  1. MenInBrown

    MenInBrown Well-Known Member

  2. badpal

    badpal Active Member

    Our center had a few , but they quit after the first week.
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  3. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    I drive a rental to a small town a 1/2 hour away from the center, leave the full one and drive an empty rental back for a PVD driver. She is the Division Managers daughter.
  4. Mugarolla

    Mugarolla Light 'em up!

    The Teamsters didn't reject the proposal, Sen OB did, as small package director and lead contract negotiator.

    Don't you remember Hoffa firing him?
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  5. MenInBrown

    MenInBrown Well-Known Member

    The headline says The teamsters rejected it. So has anyone filed grievances?
  6. Mugarolla

    Mugarolla Light 'em up!

    Don't care what the headline says.

    That statement came from Sean OB last year, and he is no longer in the picture.

    As a matter of fact, this statement was one of the reasons Hoffa fired him.

    Good luck with any grievance.
  7. MenInBrown

    MenInBrown Well-Known Member

    So he was IN the picture when the Teamsters rejected it. I got that. Do you have anything that states the contrary since he is no longer IN the picture?
  8. Mugarolla

    Mugarolla Light 'em up!

    The Teamsters did not reject it. Sean OB did, without the approval of the Teamsters. That is why he was fired.

    Here is just 1 article. There are thousands.

    O’Brien Fired as Top Teamsters Negotiator in UPS Contract Talks
  9. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt

    I still have a problem with the situation being labeled as he "was fired".

    It was an appointed position, serving at the discretion of the IBT President.

    Whatever the reason for the dismissal, it's a major fopa....

    to then join forces with other political rivals. That makes it look justified.
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  10. Coldworld

    Coldworld Bad mall cop...no donut!!!

    You blame them...lol.. can go over to target and make more money.. lmao
  11. Coldworld

    Coldworld Bad mall cop...no donut!!!

    It will all be water under the bridge when Sean becomes president of the teamsters in 2021...
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  12. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt

    That's a little presumptuous.

    At this point, we don't even know who is running and what the make-up of the

    slates will be. If Sean is serious, he will dump Fred Z.... or lose.

    The last time a TDU slate won, was with Ron C.

    And look what happened with that.
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  13. Mugarolla

    Mugarolla Light 'em up!


    He was removed.

    My point stands. For the time being, the no PVD's went out the door with him.
  14. sandwich

    sandwich The resident gearhead

  15. wide load

    wide load Starting wage is a waste of time.

  16. centralpa

    centralpa New Member

    we have about 5 pvd drivers right now. they are doing about 80 rural route stops a day
  17. SameRightsForAll

    SameRightsForAll Active Member

    The personal vehicle driver thing is quite a greedy move by UPS but because the PVD meets with drivers away from the building, nobody sees it taking place to file a grievance against it. UPS is transferring the massive costs of maintaining a delivery vehicle onto a poor low-wage driver who can barely afford to pay his/her vehicle notes and saving the company millions. This really should be illegal to not compensate these drivers 100% for all wear/tear/damage caused during delivery clock hours. Not 10% or 75% recovery, but 100% of the maintenance that UPS would normally have to perform should be given to the personal driver, including mechanic hours that would have been required for such maintenance to be performed at the center. Free oil changes, headlight replacements, tail light replacements, blinker and relay replacements, windshield replacements from rock cracks, etc., new tires, coolant, UPS logos for the doors and back window, and $.50 over the price of all gasoline consumed TO and FROM the first and last delivery location, and this is just a few of the compensations that the company owes these drivers!

    Knowing that UPS would NEVER agree to compensating such a driver fairly, it should be demanded that until the company does agree to do this that the PVD should be banned immediately and whoever files a grievance on it gets 3x his/her hourly pay rate for every hour the company screwed over a PVD and his vehicle.
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  18. DOK

    DOK Well-Known Member

    I respect your position BUG but there is no way Hoffa gets re-elected after this contract fiasco, none.
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  19. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    If he doesn't lose by at least 2/3 vote he stays the the IBT president and can invoke primae noctis across the land if he so chooses.
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  20. Maple Grove MN Driver

    Maple Grove MN Driver Cocaine Mang!

    You didn't vote for your own contract.
    What makes you think you will vote in the Teamster Presidential Election?