FromOffTheStreets
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Agree, however this person Paul is pointing out is THE ANTICHRIST. it isn't just your run of the mill people
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BrownFlush
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No. It couldn't mean that. Be careful saying that a generation will not see what Jesus said they would see.
Matthew 24:34 is the pivotal passage. "Verily I say unto you, this generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled." Note again "these things."
"This generation" is defined by its earlier use in the book of Matthew. Hope this helps.
Matthew 1:17-"So all the generations from Abraham to David are fourteen generations; and from David until the carrying away into Babylon are fourteen generations; and from the carrying away into Babylon unto Christ are fourteen generations."
Matthew 11:16-"But whereunto shall I liken this generation?" The, "this generation," of this text is the "now" of Matthew 11:12. ) Matthew 12:39, 41, 42, 45 -- "An evil and adulterous generation . . . this generation . . . this wicked generation" is that era, that day, the generation of Christ's personal preaching, death, burial and resurrection (cf. Matt. 12:40,42).
The "men of Nineveh" is the generation of Jonah. The "queen of the south" is the generation of Solomon contrasted with "this generation" of Jesus.
Matthew 16:4-"A wicked and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given it, but the sign of the prophet Jonah." The "generation" of this passage is the Pharisees and Sadducees of Jesus' day (cf. "sign" in Matthew 16:1,4). Matthew 17:17 - "O faithless and perverse generation, how long shall I be with you?" That generation was the time Christ was "with" them.
Matthew 23:36-"Verily I say unto you, all these things shall come upon this generation. " Notice that "this generation" is distinguished from "the days of (your) fathers" (v. 30).
BrownFlush
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Some because of the meaning of the word anti, believe the AntiChrist, is sin personified. That whoever and whatever is against (anti) the teachings of Christ, is the AntiChrist. I can see some of that reasoning.
The antichrist were not only run of the mill people during John's day, they were already sowing the seeds of apostasy in the church. Bedtime, so I'll make it quick... There was a falling away for sure...
The voice of the Pope is supposed to be the voice of the Lord, Himself.
The Pope seats himself in what is claimed to be the temple of God, and he asserts himself to be the voice of God. So he supposedly expresses the very thoughts of God. Talk about blasphemy. But, what would you expect from the Anti-Christ!
I believe the first pope and his line of successors are Paul's "Man of Sin,"and that his temple is the church, and that the apostasy which made it possible for him to appear is the disposition to leave/go against Jesus, His apostles, and their words ( Scripture) and embrace the doctrines and traditions of men.
Another passage of the apostasy...."who forbid marriage and require abstinence from foods that God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth." -1 Tim.4:3
Integrity
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Who could? Well the way I understand it, possibly anyone who adds anything to Christ such as adding religion, religious texts, rules, their own efforts, their own righteousness, anything apart from the finished work of Christ and the spiritual life in the unseen that faith in the finished work of Christ enables.
BrownFlush
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Did some research. I knew of the Maccabees revolt, but the pig thing I didn't know anything about.
Anyway, after that happened, the temple was cleansed and rededicated. That's a far cry from “You see all these, do you not? Truly, I say to you, there will not be left here one stone upon another that will not be thrown down.”-V2
Josephus writes the Romans actually plowed the dirt so as when one looked there was nothing.
tourists24
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there are several verses that says that when a person who asks Christ into his heart and life, then can be assured at baptism (Mark 16:16, Acts 2:38, Peter 3:21). Is this what you were asking?
dido definitely is.
but then you cant be a christian
im not sure what going through the typically motions of being religious amounts to
BrownFlush
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The premillennial theory has brought a host of who John's antichrist is in Revelation. Every time someone sees their shadow in the the Middle East, "this is it". Preachers get busy warning every one of an imminent battle of Armageddon.
World War I. Armageddon was just around the corner. "Clear" fulfillment of prophecies about "the end time." The premillennial teachings about the tribulation, Armageddon, the rapture, and the beginning of the thousand year reign of Christ on the earth were all supposed to become a reality within that generation.
World War II brought the premillennial folks out in force again. Hitler was "the Antichrist" whose destruction would initiate a thousand year reign of Christ upon the earth. Hitler's hatred of the Jews and his alliance with Mussolini (the successor to ancient Rome)Talk about a red hot time for the premillennialism. Again, no doubt about. It said to be the "clear" fulfillment of prophecies.
The establishment of the Jewish state in Palestine brought another round of speculation from premillennialists. Again, this was the "clear" fulfillment of Bible prophecy regarding the return of Israel to Palestine. Actually, God had promised that only a remnant would return to the land following captivity (Isa. 10:20-25).
That return was to take place after seventy years of Judah's captivity in Babylon (Jer. 29:10-14). The Bible recorded that fulfillment as having taken place in the 5th and 6th centuries before Christ (see the books of Ezra and Nehemiah; 2 Chron. 36:17-23). God had previously kept his promise to give the Israelites all of the land promised to Abraham (Josh. 21:43-45; 23:14-16; 1 Kgs.4:21;Neb. 9:7-9;Psa.105:42-44).
Hal Lindsey told us that Russia would be the "King of the North" in a confederacy made up of Iran and Egypt would be the "King of the South" in a coalition with the "Arabic nations". In its time, Lindsey's teaching was touted as the "clear" teaching of the Bible.
Over the past few decades, the list of leading candidates for "the Antichrist" included Henry Kissinger, Anwar Sadat, a Soviet president, the head of the European Common Market, and an unnamed man of "Roman descent." Let's not forget Saddam Hussein.
None of this makes sense and for sure, none of this would have made any sense to the Christians being persecuted and killed by Rome because they refused to bow to and offer worship to Caesar. The Revelation written to them, was one of encouragement that no matter how bad things are and will get, stay faithful. The victory will be the Lord and his church and those faithful to the end.
World War I. Armageddon was just around the corner. "Clear" fulfillment of prophecies about "the end time." The premillennial teachings about the tribulation, Armageddon, the rapture, and the beginning of the thousand year reign of Christ on the earth were all supposed to become a reality within that generation.
World War II brought the premillennial folks out in force again. Hitler was "the Antichrist" whose destruction would initiate a thousand year reign of Christ upon the earth. Hitler's hatred of the Jews and his alliance with Mussolini (the successor to ancient Rome)Talk about a red hot time for the premillennialism. Again, no doubt about. It said to be the "clear" fulfillment of prophecies.
The establishment of the Jewish state in Palestine brought another round of speculation from premillennialists. Again, this was the "clear" fulfillment of Bible prophecy regarding the return of Israel to Palestine. Actually, God had promised that only a remnant would return to the land following captivity (Isa. 10:20-25).
That return was to take place after seventy years of Judah's captivity in Babylon (Jer. 29:10-14). The Bible recorded that fulfillment as having taken place in the 5th and 6th centuries before Christ (see the books of Ezra and Nehemiah; 2 Chron. 36:17-23). God had previously kept his promise to give the Israelites all of the land promised to Abraham (Josh. 21:43-45; 23:14-16; 1 Kgs.4:21;Neb. 9:7-9;Psa.105:42-44).
Hal Lindsey told us that Russia would be the "King of the North" in a confederacy made up of Iran and Egypt would be the "King of the South" in a coalition with the "Arabic nations". In its time, Lindsey's teaching was touted as the "clear" teaching of the Bible.
Over the past few decades, the list of leading candidates for "the Antichrist" included Henry Kissinger, Anwar Sadat, a Soviet president, the head of the European Common Market, and an unnamed man of "Roman descent." Let's not forget Saddam Hussein.
None of this makes sense and for sure, none of this would have made any sense to the Christians being persecuted and killed by Rome because they refused to bow to and offer worship to Caesar. The Revelation written to them, was one of encouragement that no matter how bad things are and will get, stay faithful. The victory will be the Lord and his church and those faithful to the end.
BrownFlush
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tourists24
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I did put verses in the post. Mark, Acts, Peter
BrownFlush
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tourists24
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Mark 16:16 “Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned”……
I think they do. They are putting it into words exactly. What am I missing?
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BrownFlush
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You're missing what the verses actually say.
There is nothing in them about Peter or Jesus telling people to ask (how?) Jesus "into your heart" to be saved.
tourists24
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Well then I don’t know how to answer what you are wanting to see. Show me the verses I missed the mark with
BrownFlush
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Where is "ask Jesus into your heart''?
Thebrownblob
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He just wants to argue. He’s a buffoon
BrownFlush
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Simply see what the verse actually says.
Thebrownblob
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Jesus is not in your heart. You carry the Bible around like a weapon. You only seek to argue not to leave people to Christ
BrownFlush
Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
Get a life.
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