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Integrity

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Never if it went against the word of God that was inspired by and directed by that same spirit.
How do you reconcile the practices and principles that biblical scholars and various religious denominations differ in claiming biblical support for different positions?

Do you have any views on these differing and opposing biblical viewpoints?
 

Thebrownblob

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How do you reconcile the practices and principles that biblical scholars and various religious denominations differ in claiming biblical support for different positions?

Do you have any views on these differing and opposing biblical viewpoints?
Interpreting the Bible differently and saying some of the Bible is not true because a human being wrote it is different in my opinion. Hence, the blasphemy part. you’ve now come to the part where you even are willing to deny that Jesus may not have even said most or even some of these words. That’s your choice and I’m certain you’re sincere about it I don’t think that’s a wise choice.
 

Integrity

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Interpreting the Bible differently and saying some of the Bible is not true because a human being wrote it is different in my opinion. Hence, the blasphemy part. you’ve now come to the part where you even are willing to deny that Jesus may not have even said most or even some of these words. That’s your choice and I’m certain you’re sincere about it I don’t think that’s a wise choice.
Thank you again!

How do you view controversial biblical doctrine?

Women in church leadership?

Possibility of losing salvation?

Grace alone by faith alone in Christ alone?

others?
 

Thebrownblob

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Thank you again!

How do you view controversial biblical doctrine?

Women in church leadership?

Possibility of losing salvation?

Grace alone by faith alone in Christ alone?

others?
Honestly, I believe discussion of those things in this form are probably not edifying. So really not worth discussing here.
 

Integrity

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Interpreting the Bible differently and saying some of the Bible is not true because a human being wrote it is different in my opinion. Hence, the blasphemy part. you’ve now come to the part where you even are willing to deny that Jesus may not have even said most or even some of these words. That’s your choice and I’m certain you’re sincere about it I don’t think that’s a wise choice.
I am not willing to deny any such thing. Does any biblical scholar attribute Jesus as being the author of any of the Bible?

if not, then any quotation from Jesus has to be someone else’s statement as to what Jesus said, that’s all I don’t see the problem in this.
 

Thebrownblob

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I am not will to deny any such thing. Does any biblical scholar attribute Jesus as being the author of any of the Bible?

if not, then any quotation from Jesus has to be someone else’s statement as to what Jesus said, that’s all I don’t see the problem in this.
I believe your example is a distinction without a different for a book that is holy. And one that is supposed to be guided by the Holy Spirit. This isn’t just some random book.


There’s many people on here who have disagreements with on their doctrine. You are the only one suggesting that all the book is not truthful at all times , nor is it written accurately. Your choice but I don’t think it’s a good choice.
 

Thebrownblob

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I am not willing to deny any such thing. Does any biblical scholar attribute Jesus as being the author of any of the Bible?

if not, then any quotation from Jesus has to be someone else’s statement as to what Jesus said, that’s all I don’t see the problem in this.
There were scribes and Pharisees in Jesus they thought they knew the law in the book. He looked him right in the alley and called them a “brood of vipers”. That is, if you believe Jesus even said.
 

Integrity

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I believe your example is a distinction without a different for a book that is holy. And one that is supposed to be guided by the Holy Spirit. This isn’t just some random book.


There’s many people on here who have disagreements with on their doctrine. You are the only one suggesting that all the book is not truthful at all times , nor is it written accurately. Your choice but I don’t think it’s a good choice.
Do you limit God‘s communication to mankind exclusively to the written religious texts referred to as the Bible?
 

Integrity

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There were scribes and Pharisees in Jesus they thought they knew the law in the book. He looked him right in the alley and called them a “brood of vipers”. That is, if you believe Jesus even said.
Of all the writings of the Bible, the words that individuals attribute to Jesus Christ Himself are the words that I give the most weight to and find most useful in regards to the religious text known as the Bible.
 

Thebrownblob

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Do you limit God‘s communication to mankind exclusively to the written religious texts referred to as the Bible?
God is not limited but he is the same yesterday today and forever and if it goes against what the Bible that was inspired and directed by the Holy Spirit. it’s a pretty good gauge that you’re not listening to the Holy Spirit at all but some other spirit. Imo
 

Thebrownblob

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Of all the writings of the Bible, the words that individuals attribute to Jesus Christ Himself are the words that I give the most weight and find most useful in regards to the religious text known as the Bible.
The most weight, but they could be wrong according to you? Honestly, I wouldn’t feel very great about my savior if that was the case. That is my honest opinion.
 

Thebrownblob

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I cannot imagine offering a new Christian or someone interested in being a Christian a book and saying this is a book that may or may not be completely true and may or may not have the eternal salvation not really sure although it is a nice book. Got a lot of cool stories in it, but most of them are probably not true. those words in red might be Jesus they might not be. Can’t really be sure.

Doesn’t feel like I would be putting a lot of faith in that religion.
 

Integrity

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God is not limited but he is the same yesterday today and forever and if it goes against what the Bible that was inspired and directed by the Holy Spirit. it’s a pretty good gauge that you’re not listening to the Holy Spirit at all but some other spirit. Imo
I understand your position. But again for those controversial biblically understood yet different and opposing doctrines or positions in the church, and on this forum as well then is it your position that those with opposing views to yours are not listening to the Holy Spirit?
 

Thebrownblob

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I understand your position. But again for those controversial biblically understood yet different and opposing doctrines or positions in the church, and on this forum as well then is it your position that those with opposing views to yours are not listening to the Holy Spirit?
If I only use doctrine as a weapon to prove people wrong or to feel holier, I don’t believe the Holy Spirit would approve. Although a doctrine that the Bible might not be truthful or accurate, even though the Holy Spirit guided and inspired it doesn’t seem to be a sound doctrine to me.
 
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vantexan

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Now you are saying what someone is not saying. Whatever.

Yes as I said Jesus personally didn’t write down his words. Others wrote down what they are saying he said.

Just look at how you mishandle what others actually say. Nothing more need to be said about how that goes sideways.
You mischaracterized his statement. He didn't say Jesus wrote any of the books. But what boggles my mind is your constant claims that you speak directly with God but you constantly say the authors of the Bible were just men as in they got things wrong(if you disagree with them) but you get things right. Why is it you have a special relationship with God that an apostle of Jesus doesn't have? Why is it you don't recognize the authority and special gifts given the Apostles?
 
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