Integrity
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Same a you my friend. Reject away what you don’t believe and don’t understand.
All good it’s not uncommon.
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All good it’s not uncommon.
Doublestandards
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This is why it’s crazy to me the though of god banishing people to hell for small discrepancies and difference of opinion or interpretation of details in the Bible
Someone can be a good hearted person who truly makes the world a better place and loves god, but because the person they trusted gave them the “wrong” interpretation they’re now spending eternity in hell? I just don’t believe that
tourists24
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God doesn’t banish anyone to hell for small discrepancies. Individuals choose to be separated from Christ by not accepting Christ’s gift of salvation. It’s a gift given through grace by Jesus dying on the cross for us. The differences can be debated amongst ourselves to strive to live the life that’s best glorifies Him
Integrity
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Nor do I.
I cannot comprehend, believing what in my mind and spirit is such a ridiculous thought.
Integrity
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I believe as you do about salvation in Christ.
Do you believe the ritual of water baptism qualifies as a small discrepancy that you described here?
tourists24
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I'd say that's possible. I do believe it's important to be baptized soon after accepting salvation. If I'm involved with helping someone make that covenant with Christ I do tell them that this is the next step.
Working under the assumption to the one's on here profess their faith and belief I believe the rest of the debate is simply trying to live the life the best way to glorify Him and not a life separated from heaven after death
OK, I reject your direct two way conversations with God.
Integrity
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just a suggestion: you shouldn’t knock it until you give it a sincere try.
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just a suggestion: you shouldn’t knock it until you give it a sincere try.
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Integrity
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You just asked if "the ritual of water baptism qualifies as a small discrepancy?" after the statement was made that God won't send us to Hell over small discrepancies. As if baptism doesn't really matter at all.
1 Peter 3:21; Mark 16:16; Acts 8:36; Acts 10:48; Acts 16:33.
Every example of Christian conversion in the New Testament involved immersion(baptizo in Greek) in water. Nowhere does it say, ok, you're saved, now let's perform this unnecessary ritual to signify that.
Doublestandards
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So you believe if someone is not given enough water during their baptism they go to hell?
I'm not God, not my place to judge. Also not my place to find arguments to not do what we're clearly told that we should do.
Do you remember the story of Naaman the leper? A great man who sent for the prophet Elisha to cure his leprosy. Elisha didn't come, just sent word that Naaman should dip himself 7 times in the Jordan River. This made Naaman angry, and he refused to do it. His servant pointed out that if Elisha had told him to do some great thing then he would've done it. So Naaman decided to do as he was told and his leprosy was cured. Seems for many the act of baptism is a similar stumbling block. Find reasons not to obey God's word. It's your soul. You are free to do as you please but that doesn't mean what you're doing is what you're supposed to do. I know people like @Integrity will turn that last sentence back on me. But I'm not the one refusing to do what every example of Christian conversion did.
tourists24
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Is there a reason you are asking? Curiosity? Something in you looking for a personal reasoning? Possibly thinking of help to be saved?
Integrity
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I believe religious ritual doesn’t save only God does.
Doublestandards
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Well 1. Just for topic discussion and curiosity and 2. I was too young to even remember my baptism, just seems crazy to me to think that could have an affect on my judgment
God certainly saves those who comply with his will.
tourists24
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Well here is how you could view it. If you sincerely believe in your heart that Jesus died for your sins on the cross and that you wish for Him to be your savior and promise to follow Him, that’s the most important step, for without that baptism means little. If you go through the motion of baptism just as a token without the other,then there is no true salvation
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