Rising infertility in men

trickpony1

Well-Known Member
The food source may have something to do with this.
Years ago, like around the end of WW II, the food source wasn't adulterated with GMO's, preservatives, antibiotics, growth hormones, pesticides and some other stuff I can't remember.
Today it is and our government either looks the other way or is motivated to accept/approve it.
 

Jones

fILE A GRIEVE!
Staff member
The food source may have something to do with this.
Years ago, like around the end of WW II, the food source wasn't adulterated with GMO's, preservatives, antibiotics, growth hormones, pesticides and some other stuff I can't remember.
Today it is and our government either looks the other way or is motivated to accept/approve it.
People do it to themselves. Never see an empty McDonalds.
 

Operational needs

Virescit Vulnere Virtus
People do it to themselves. Never see an empty McDonalds.
Yes and no. People have no say over what pesticides and GMOs are put in/on their foods at the ORIGINAL source, farms. Or what is put in foods at grocery stores, such as the gas put on meats to preserve the color in prepackaged containers.
 

Jones

fILE A GRIEVE!
Staff member
Yes and no. People have no say over what pesticides and GMOs are put in/on their foods at the ORIGINAL source, farms. Or what is put in foods at grocery stores, such as the gas put on meats to preserve the color in prepackaged containers.
We mostly buy organic, but I realize that's not always an option for people. Part of the problem is that any time government does step in to try and regulate there's always a lot of pushback against the "socialist nanny-state" etc. Just trying to ban soda and junk food being served with school lunches ends up in a big culture war.
 

Supersoaker

Proud Republican Against Trump (RAT)
The food source may have something to do with this.
Years ago, like around the end of WW II, the food source wasn't adulterated with GMO's, preservatives, antibiotics, growth hormones, pesticides and some other stuff I can't remember.
Today it is and our government either looks the other way or is motivated to accept/approve it.
Or it could just be pornhub.
 

Old Man Jingles

Rat out of a cage
guys at my work and at my dads industry complained about how the standard of living has fallen in this country.
and debt to stress you out.
i hope ppl rise up to make the future better than the past instead of the opposite. it'd be a shame to let our lives partly go to waste.
Consider this young Padawan ... The 'Standard of Living' has actually gone up.
The acceptable standard of living has gone up tremendously.
Revert to all these former Standard of Living standards below and there will be money left over in a one-worker family of four.

Families has one car.
Kids rode the school bus to and from school.
There was one TV in the house with 3 channels ... increasing family time.
The family ate at the family table with no TV, phones or other distractions.
The family lived in a 1200 sq ft house with 3 or 4 bedrooms.
There was one telephone in the house and nothing was wireless.
Kids got a job at 14 or they played sports.
There were no malls but there was a small catalog mail-order market.
 

Old Man Jingles

Rat out of a cage
The food source may have something to do with this.
Years ago, like around the end of WW II, the food source wasn't adulterated with GMO's, preservatives, antibiotics, growth hormones, pesticides and some other stuff I can't remember.
Today it is and our government either looks the other way or is motivated to accept/approve it.
Add sugar/corn syrup as major contributers.
 

Old Man Jingles

Rat out of a cage
... Or what is put in foods at grocery stores, such as the gas put on meats to preserve the color in prepackaged containers.
Two of the biggest trends reshaping America’s meat supply are gas packaging and brine injection systems. Manufacturers save millions of dollars in lost meat turnover with these technologies, which make meat appear fresh longer and pump “flavor” into factory-farmed meat.

“Modified atmospheric packaging” (MAP), has been around for a while, but has only recently come into widespread use. The process involves removing regular air from meat packages and replacing it with specific blends of gases,
including carbon monoxide, carbon dioxide, oxygen and nitrogen.

The air you are breathing contains 21 % oxygen, 78 % nitrogen, <1% carbon dioxide, 0.2 parts per million carbon monoxide.

OMJ - I remember when pure nitrogen gas was advertised as keeping meats fresh longer. Maybe the 80's ...
 

Old Man Jingles

Rat out of a cage
We mostly buy organic, but I realize that's not always an option for people. Part of the problem is that any time government does step in to try and regulate there's always a lot of pushback against the "socialist nanny-state" etc. Just trying to ban soda and junk food being served with school lunches ends up in a big culture war.
For the National government ... not state or local where politics to remove 'individual freedoms'
are more readily accepted because it is not being pushed on the citizenry by a distant non-accountable government.
 

rickyb

Well-Known Member
Consider this young Padawan ... The 'Standard of Living' has actually gone up.
The acceptable standard of living has gone up tremendously.
Revert to all these former Standard of Living standards below and there will be money left over in a one-worker family of four.

Families has one car.
Kids rode the school bus to and from school.
There was one TV in the house with 3 channels ... increasing family time.
The family ate at the family table with no TV, phones or other distractions.
The family lived in a 1200 sq ft house with 3 or 4 bedrooms.
There was one telephone in the house and nothing was wireless.
Kids got a job at 14 or they played sports.
There were no malls but there was a small catalog mail-order market.
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theres probably some interesting ones for college tuition, medical costs, and housing costs. the housing costs is because the economy has been financialized. the US govt doesnt work anymore, probably hasnt worked since at least Bill clinton. not sure about canadian govt, but we have undergone neoliberalism for sure. the prison population has exploded. america doesnt spend on infrastructure anymore, this is likely true to a lesser extent here as well because of neoliberalism which has infected probably all western countries to some degree.

even if ppl cut back on expenses that doesnt stop the banks from creating unaffordable housing and debt bubbles by letting ppl borrow against 50% of their income for housing.

this is household debt to income. canada at all time high.

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this is probably one of the biggest problems which is people cant get good paying manufacturing jobs anymore with low education.
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im not sure whats going on with personal consumption, but that doesnt make up for hte fact that under neoliberalism govt has been defunding college, and im assuming that also means theyve allowed the banks to lend ppl more money for mortgages.

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income flat in canada adjusted for inflation since 1989. so more and more of your income is going to housing. most of those things you listed are small ticket items aside from the car and hte house. i agree maybe ppl have been getting in bigger sq ft property, no idea.
 
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