Saturday ground and terrible union

[browncowboy]

Telematics maybe good for you... Orion is definitely not!

You can't be disciplined with technology, but, if observed, they can run telematics to show a pattern. And know one here has been terminated for over allowed. It's not in the contract.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

You can't be disciplined with technology, but, if observed, they can run telematics to show a pattern. And know one here has been terminated for over allowed. It's not in the contract.

This is a common misnomer.

You cannot be terminated based solely on their use of technology; however, you most certainly can be disciplined. Huge difference.

 

[BigUnionGuy]

however, you most certainly can be disciplined.

How's that ? And, for what ?

It doesn't happen here.



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[PT Car Washer]

This is a common misnomer.

You cannot be terminated based solely on their use of technology; however, you most certainly can be disciplined. Huge difference.

Disciplined like in a verbal warning.

 

[BigUnionGuy]

Disciplined like in a verbal warning.

Disciplined, as in "this came up on a report.... please don't make me look bad".



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[PT Car Washer]

Disciplined, as in "this came up on a report.... please don't make me look bad".



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Correct.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Disciplined like in a verbal warning.

Up to an including warning letters, based on the violation and supporting evidence.

Disciplined, as in "this came up on a report.... please don't make me look bad".



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Nope.

Had a driver receive a warning letter for going 55 in a 35. Customer called in a concern which was supported by Telematics data.

We have also had similar concerns thrown out as they were proven to be false by Telematics.

 

[542thruNthru]

Here in the West, we were the first to get Satrurday Delivery rolling. We new the company would need to hire more Cover Positions. If fact, they did. This then created more drivers. We have a Saturday extra work list for Full-time and a Monday sign up list for those that are Tue-Sat. The covers are scheduled cover Tue-Sat. This allows them to gain their progression and earn the rate through their 4 years. We also tell all our Monday-Friday full timers not to go home if their routes get cut. Forse the company to allow you to use your route bid language, that is , displace the low senior in your loop. Now, that makes the company either, let a route driver now displace a utility driver, who now will also possibly be blind on a route, or, have to allow the Senior route drive go out blind on a route and bomb. It has been a hard road. But, the stewards are very good here. They, make the company comply with the contract. And have also had routes put in. Not to mention, come summer the need for vacations that will put all the Tuesday-Saturday people on a 6 day work week. And the cover drivers being called in on Monday at top rate(outside cover language). So, looking at it, this will be the norm, and as an over 25 year Teamster, this is continued job security.

Here in 542 our local is fighting the company saying they can not make the cover drivers tue-sat. That it is a direct violation of the contract. They are trying to force the company to hire more full-time drivers. I totally agree with them also. If they just hire cover drivers to work tue-sat then the company will hire even less FT then they should down the line. We have guys waiting 10-11 years to go fulltime and it's not right.

 

[Back first]

Up to an including warning letters, based on the violation and supporting evidence.



Nope.

Had a driver receive a warning letter for going 55 in a 35. Customer called in a concern which was supported by Telematics data.

We have also had similar concerns thrown out as they were proven to be false by Telematics.

Are you a steward? You know way to much about other drivers in your center.

 

[Back first]

Here in 542 our local is fighting the company saying they can not make the cover drivers tue-sat. That it is a direct violation of the contract. They are trying to force the company to hire more full-time drivers. I totally agree with them also. If they just hire cover drivers to work tue-sat then the company will hire even less FT then they should down the line. We have guys waiting 10-11 years to go fulltime and it's not right.

In the master it states drivers hired 1986 or earlier M-friend drivers hired after 1986 workweek is M-friend or T-S. unless it states differently in your supplement.

 

[542thruNthru]

In the master it states drivers hired 1986 or earlier M-friend drivers hired after 1986 workweek is M-friend or T-S. unless it states differently in your supplement.

Cover drivers in 542 are PT employees who cover. Vacation, disability, sick calls and jury duty. They are already used for more then that but making them t-s would essentially be making them full-time employees.

 

[BigUnionGuy]

In the master it states drivers hired 1986 or earlier M-friend drivers hired after 1986 workweek is M-friend or T-S. unless it states differently in your supplement.

You are thinking about your Supplemental (or Local) language.

It's not in the Master.


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[Back first]

You are thinking about your Supplemental (or Local) language.

It's not in the Master.


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You are thinking about your Supplemental (or Local) language.

It's not in the Master.


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your right it is in my supplement.