Saturday Ground Update

[Coldworld]

70 hours in 8 days instead of 60 hours in 7 days. All the other rules apply including the reset period.

I never worked 70 during Christmas... Some of us used our 16 hour exception once a week but they never used the 70 hour rule with us...

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

I never worked 70 during Christmas... Some of us used our 16 hour exception once a week but they never used the 70 hour rule with us...

We never used it here. Heard so.e chatter about it but never used it.

 

[soberups]

we hired more than normal post-peak (as tues-sat drivers), so the increase in staffing going forward may not look as heavy as you'd expect, but the coverage will be there



generally for every 2 routes run on saturday, you can expect 1 route to be cut on monday
this has been the successful ratio to make service while still keeping plan days reasonable (9.1 avg)

How do you plan on combining 2 full pickup routes into one delivery route on Mondays?

Pickups have to be done in a consistent time frame. You cant just show up at a heavy pickup 3 hours early on Monday (which is often their heaviest shipping day) and expect them to be ready. Nor can you force 1500 cubic feet of pickup volume into a P-1000. Especially when that P-1000 still has 500 cubic feet of undelivered business volume from an adjacent (eliminated) route on board. We have enough problems already on Mondays during the summer when management gets cut-happy, thinning the volume out even more by delivering it on Saturdays will only make things worse.

I get that we need to provide Saturday delivery service in order to compete. But we also still need to provide Monday pickup service in order to compete.

 

[hellfire]

Expect that to disappear next contract

Isn't your local now dead broke??? You don't expect concessions?? Not too bright, it shows

 

[hellfire]

How do you plan on combining 2 full pickup routes into one delivery route on Mondays?

Pickups have to be done in a consistent time frame. You cant just show up at a heavy pickup 3 hours early on Monday (which is often their heaviest shipping day) and expect them to be ready. Nor can you force 1500 cubic feet of pickup volume into a P-1000. Especially when that P-1000 still has 500 cubic feet of undelivered business volume from an adjacent (eliminated) route on board. We have enough problems already on Mondays during the summer when management gets cut-happy, thinning the volume out even more by delivering it on Saturdays will only make things worse.

I get that we need to provide Saturday delivery service in order to compete. But we also still need to provide Monday pickup service in order to compete.

Whole new company and directives. Times are a changin

 

[soberups]

Whole new company and directives. Times are a changin

Times may change, but the laws of geometry and the physical impossibility of being in 2 places at once do not. You cant get 10 gallons of smilet into a 5 gallon bucket no matter how many "directives" you throw at it.

 

[Jackburton]

Lol, just got a text from a driver, him and about 4 other guys still out there delivering, at 10:20pm.

 

[PT Car Washer]

Lol, just got a text from a driver, him and about 4 other guys still out there delivering, at 10:20pm.

Good news for the shareholders. I guess. Maximizing company assets.

 

[luke3115]

Just did our first Saturday ground today. 166 stops covered about 5 or 6 different routes 115 miles. It feels like the day Was never gonna end.

I'm in year 3 of 4 for the wage progression and to be honest I feel if we are going to make the big leap to saturdays and lose quality family time we should be at top pay. UPS is benefiting tremendously from this as almost all the Saturday guys are new hires. Who knows what's gonna happen in the next four years when they eventually work to top pay.

Anyone know what the next contract will change if anything about wages?

 

[MyTripisCut]

Anyone know what the next contract will change if anything about wages?

If your hoping for anything better....I wouldn't.....but be prepared for something worse.....

 

[TearsInRain]

How do you plan on combining 2 full pickup routes into one delivery route on Mondays?

Pickups have to be done in a consistent time frame. You cant just show up at a heavy pickup 3 hours early on Monday (which is often their heaviest shipping day) and expect them to be ready. Nor can you force 1500 cubic feet of pickup volume into a P-1000. Especially when that P-1000 still has 500 cubic feet of undelivered business volume from an adjacent (eliminated) route on board. We have enough problems already on Mondays during the summer when management gets cut-happy, thinning the volume out even more by delivering it on Saturdays will only make things worse.

I get that we need to provide Saturday delivery service in order to compete. But we also still need to provide Monday pickup service in order to compete.

you didn't read my post carefully, the numbers you have in mind are all wrong, and everything you pointed out is painfully obvious to everyone

 

[Poop Head]

Don't tell me it stands for "Service". I always thought it stands for "Stupid"

I always thought it stands for "Soakers"

 

[tourists24]

Lol, just got a text from a driver, him and about 4 other guys still out there delivering, at 10:20pm.

Dragon will be glad to hear this..... his stops per car are up

 

[Coldworld]

Dragon will be glad to hear this..... his stops per car are up

He is a scrub....almost as bad as @IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U !!!

 

[soberups]

you didn't read my post carefully, the numbers you have in mind are all wrong, and everything you pointed out is painfully obvious to everyone

And you didn't read my post carefully. You are an IE person, so the numbers you have in mind are based upon a fantasy and not real-world experience. Anyone who has any actual driving experience knows that you cannot combine two full pickup routes into one. It doesn't work.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

If your hoping for anything better....I wouldn't.....but be prepared for something worse.....

I keep hearing rumors of a two tiered wage system for new FT hires.

 

[Ghost in the Darkness]

Our center manager has said we often run in the red. He also admitted Saturday delivery would be money loss day for us. So far we haven't had a whisper about it here.

 

[Inthegame]

I keep hearing rumors of a two tiered wage system for new FT hires.

Have you been talking to yourself again?

 

[35years]

They tried this after the 1997 strike. They claimed volume was way down because of the strike and 1/2 of the routes were cut out. Covering pickups for two routes will lose you many customers. Delivering business stops for two routes ensures plenty of missed stops as well.

The newbie drivers on Sat may be pushed around but the Monday drivers will take full break and lunch and bring them back missed.

 

[35years]

Here they're not going by seniority per se. They've selected the routes they want to move to Tues-Sat and are giving the drivers the option to follow their work to that schedule, or they will put the routes back up for bid

Your BA needs some "gentle " feedback.