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So why did it fall RG?
tourists24
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newfie
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newfie
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TOS is one Donald trump being elected president event away from being a presidential birther...
popular mechanics ok?
http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/a6384/debunking-911-myths-world-trade-center/
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newfie
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you look at it , the picture clearly shows melted steel which you say cant happen.
jet fuel by itself does not have to be the cause but the resulting fire and damage from the airplane strike clearly did the damage.
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TOS is one Donald trump being elected president event away from being a presidential birther...
popular mechanics ok?
http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/a6384/debunking-911-myths-world-trade-center/
The entire POPULAR MECHANICS testing was DEBUNKED by real scientists. ALL the tests they conducted were not going to EVER replicate what happened on 9/11.
For example, they conducted a test to see if "thermite" could cut steel... of course, their test FAILED, but a real scientist conducted a REAL test and cut steel just fine.
Dont put your money on the popular mechanics study, they did what the Bush administration wanted them to tell you.
Ill look for the thermite test from pop mech, and then ill show you the real test.
You make the call.
TOS.
Something for you to read, rather than depending on Rupert Murdochs National Geographic or Popular Mechanics...
Here is a good demonstration of how "thermite" could have been used on the columns of the Trade Towers LONG BEFORE any airplanes hit them.
Give this a watch NEWFIE, watch how this SCIENTIST, proves how thermite could have been used to do exactly what we saw happen on 9/11, then compare that to the cheap ash study Pop Mech did in order to prove to people like you that it couldnt have happened.
TOS
- Molten metal: There are numerous photographs and eyewitness testimonies to the presence of molten metal at the WTC, both in the buildings and in the rubble. No legitimate explanation has been provided for this evidence other than the exothermic reaction of thermite, which generates the temperatures required and molten iron as a product.
- The fires at Ground Zero could not be put out for several months. Despite the application of millions of gallons of water to the pile, several rainfall events at the site, and the use of a chemical fire suppressant, the fires would not subside. Thermal images made by satellite showed that the temperatures in the pile were far above that expected in the debris from a typical structure fire. Only thermite, which contains its own oxidant and therefore cannot be extinguished by smothering it, can explain this evidence.
- Numerous eyewitnesses who were fleeing the area described the air mass as a hot wind filled with burning particles.[1] This evidence agrees with the presence of large quantities of thermite byproducts in the air, including hot metallic microspheres and still-reacting agglomerates of thermite.
- Numerous vehicles were scorched or set on fire in the area. Photographic evidence shows that cars parked within the lower-level garage areas of the WTC complex burned as if impacted by a super-hot wind like that described by the eyewitnesses. All non-metallic parts of the cars, including the plastic, rubber, and glass, were completely burned off by a hot blast.
- There was a distinct “white smoke” present—clearly different from smoke caused by a normal structural fire—as indicated by eyewitnesses and photographic evidence.[2] The second major product of the thermite reaction is aluminum oxide, which is emitted as a white solid shortly after reaction.
- Peer-reviewed, scientific research confirmed the presence of extremely high temperatures at the WTC. The high temperatures were evidenced by metallic and other microspheres, along with evaporated metals and silicates. These findings were confirmed by 9/11 investigators and by scientists at an independent company and at the United States Geologic Survey.
- The elemental composition of the metallic microspheres from the WTC dust matches that of metallic microspheres produced by the thermite reaction.
- The environmental data collected at Ground Zero in the months following 9/11 indicate that violent incendiary fires, like those produced by thermite, occurred on specific dates. Peer-reviewed scientific analysis of these data show that the components of thermite spiked to extraordinary levels on specific dates in both the air and aerosol emissions at Ground Zero.
- Carbon nanotubes have been found in the WTC dust and in the lungs of 9/11 first responders. Formation of carbon nanotubes requires extremely high temperatures, specific metal catalysts, and carbon compounds exactly like those found in nanothermite formulations. Researchers have discovered that nanothermite produces the same kinds of carbon nanotubes. That finding has been confirmed by independent analysis in a commercial contract laboratory.
- A peer-reviewed scientific publication has identified the presence of nanothermite in the WTC dust. One of the critical aspects of that paper has been confirmed by an independent scientist. A visual comparison between nanothermite residues and particles found in the WTC dust is remarkable.
Here is a good demonstration of how "thermite" could have been used on the columns of the Trade Towers LONG BEFORE any airplanes hit them.
Give this a watch NEWFIE, watch how this SCIENTIST, proves how thermite could have been used to do exactly what we saw happen on 9/11, then compare that to the cheap ash study Pop Mech did in order to prove to people like you that it couldnt have happened.
TOS
Near the 3/4 mark is the pop mech test of thermite...
Of course, its retarded and designed to fail.... and more importantly, designed to make people look the other way...
TOS.
Of course, its retarded and designed to fail.... and more importantly, designed to make people look the other way...
TOS.
The only thing the pop mech test managed to PROVE, is how liquid metal can flow....
No structure fire in the world has ever produced liquid molten metal in a structure fire.. Only in the trade towers is this being suggested as occuring.
The pop mech test allowed the majority of the thermite to burn into the air upwards, and wasnt made to be DIRECTIONAL, as the other scientist did in his tests.
The pop mech test was BOGUS at best and should be ignored.
Dont fall for the B.S. bro.
TOS.
No structure fire in the world has ever produced liquid molten metal in a structure fire.. Only in the trade towers is this being suggested as occuring.
The pop mech test allowed the majority of the thermite to burn into the air upwards, and wasnt made to be DIRECTIONAL, as the other scientist did in his tests.
The pop mech test was BOGUS at best and should be ignored.
Dont fall for the B.S. bro.
TOS.
newfie
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show me the link where popular mechanics was debunked.
If you watched both videos, you SHOULD have determined for YOURSELF which tests were representative of what happened to the steel, unless of course, you are waiting for fox news , rush limbaugh, Mark Levin or some other right wing nut to tell you WHAT to think.
Pretty simple stuff to understand Newfie.
The pop mech test was desgined to fail, allowing the thermite to blow upwards and away from the steel. They knew this when they prepared the test, therefore, they never expected the thermite to cut the steel box tube.
In the second test, this scientist uses a LOWER GRADE version of thermite and starts the same way as pop mech. That test FAILS. Then he moves on with the testing to demonstrate how it could have been accomplished and he CUTS THICK STEEL BEAMS in HALF.
That on its face, DEBUNKS the pop mech testing.
The only thing left is for YOU to accept the data.
Try it. I am sure you watched NEITHER video. Thats just how a denier works and thinks.
TOS.
psst, just so you understand. Those "BEAMS" you see with angle cuts into them are NOT from the floors where the airplane struck, but nearer the bottom of the towers thank you very much. These are not the only columns to have these angle cuts in them either.
Of course, you want us to believe office furniture, carpeting, drywall and computers can burn at temps hot enough to melt steel.
I guess thats how the brain operation of right wingers work.
TOS.
I know talking to you is about as good as talking to a rock, but look at his photo of demolitions experts placing shape charges on a piece of steel beam being ready for a demolition, and then compare it to the angles in the steel at the trade center buildings near the bottom..
Then ask yourself, why did the bush administration have all the steel immediately placed on boats and sent to china for melting??? Who were they hiding the evidence from??
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newfie
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I did not see a test where planes were flown into high rises to see if the result could be duplicated. please produce
Now you want to be ridiculous.
Hey bro, you can lead a man to knowledge, but you sometimes you cant get him to think.
TOS.
newfie
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that's the point you had two examples of the fact a plane can bring down a high rise instead you watch some guy do a thermite video and decide that it is proof it never happened. and you call me ridiculous.
Sportello
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Yep, you definitely remind me of a former poster here.
