Slapped in the face by UPS
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ups767mech
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I would be a liar if i told you that. The fact of the matter is, If the compnay would stop doing the work of Local 2727 while the aircraft are overseas and waiting to do the work when the plane came back to the US there would be plenty of work to keep everyone employed. As a matter of fact they would have to hire more people.
Ok, and planes go overseas....and just like they do break down need a new APU, holes patched, locks changed , whathaveyou, and please correct me if Im wrong but isnt it sort of like a car somethings are easier to fix when your have whatever off? And I quiet a few planes have defferals on them so SOME (I know its the key word here) of the work is bound to be done over there?
ups767mech
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Its a contract violation to do the work oversees. There are certian things that can be done overseas but they are doing much more than is allowed by the contract. Thats isnt even getting into the heavy checks that are totally done by chop shops around the world
worldwide
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Some interesting notes from a recent article in Air Cargo World regarding this subject.
"UPS says it has no intention of outsourcing line maintenance and appears rather bemused by the Teamsters' position. Since the last UPS mechanics contract was ratified in 2002, the airline has acquired more planes-and created more than 200 additional U.S.-based jobs.
The company says major maintenance-apparently the focus of the Teamsters' campaign-is a highly specialized business and is not a core competence for a parcel delivery company. Having studied the option, UPS concluded that such a facility would cost "hundred of millions of dollars" and not be used for a quarter of any given year.
So the company has contracted out non-line haul maintenance to FAA-licensed Maintenance, Repair & Overhaul (MRO) facilities of which 90%, it says, are located in the U.S.
Air Cargo World contacted the Teamsters national headquarters and Local 2727 to determine why the union should be including UPS in its "no outsourcing" campaign when line maintenance is not the same as heavy maintenance.
No one was available for comment at press time."
"UPS says it has no intention of outsourcing line maintenance and appears rather bemused by the Teamsters' position. Since the last UPS mechanics contract was ratified in 2002, the airline has acquired more planes-and created more than 200 additional U.S.-based jobs.
The company says major maintenance-apparently the focus of the Teamsters' campaign-is a highly specialized business and is not a core competence for a parcel delivery company. Having studied the option, UPS concluded that such a facility would cost "hundred of millions of dollars" and not be used for a quarter of any given year.
So the company has contracted out non-line haul maintenance to FAA-licensed Maintenance, Repair & Overhaul (MRO) facilities of which 90%, it says, are located in the U.S.
Air Cargo World contacted the Teamsters national headquarters and Local 2727 to determine why the union should be including UPS in its "no outsourcing" campaign when line maintenance is not the same as heavy maintenance.
No one was available for comment at press time."
In an earlier incident, the subject of another investigation, faulty work by AAR Landing Gear Services apparently resulted in the collapse of landing gear on a US Airways Boeing 757 that was parked at the gate in Charlotte.
The landing gear collapsed in October 2007 as roughly 20,000 pounds of jet fuel was loaded onto Tampa-bound Flight 1753, which was waiting to depart with 195 passengers aboard. No one was injured, but the incident raised serious questions. Had the gear collapsed under weight at a different time, such as when the aircraft was landing, the outcome might have been far worse.
Immediately following the Charlotte incident, the FAA, the National Transportation Safety Board and US Airways all investigated. US Airways inspected the landing gear on five other 757s that had gear work performed by AAR, and replaced some of the truck beams. The truck beam is the main component of the landing gear, a horizontal bar connecting the front and rear axles. In that case, the FAA said AAR Landing Gear Services improperly maintained the truck beam on the main landing gear in about 350 cases involving various Boeing models between Jan. 1, 2001, and Nov. 26, 2007. The FAA said all affected operators were notified of the suspect parts in March 2008 and corrective action was taken.
"AAR employed defective processes and followed defective inspection protocols" and, as a result, "returned aircraft parts to service as being overhauled when they were not, and failed to perform required maintenance procedures," the FAA said.
Between 2006 and 2008, AAR returned about 15 improperly maintained landing-gear parts for Boeing aircraft to UPS, US Airways and Southwest, the agency said in a letter sent to AAR on Tuesday.
Tip of the iceberg my friend.
The problem is that UPS only wants there mechanics to defer problems that come up on departure. You cannot run an airline like that. You can't have a virtual airline run by controllers and planners. Airplanes are complicated machines that can do tremendous damage if not maintained properly. We don't want to do overhauls, we only want to do work that should be done to maintain our aircraft in top shape. You can't do that with a flashlight at 4 am on a turnaround. It must be done on checks, in my opinion, at the C check level.
MR_Vengeance
United Parcel Survivor
we should buy Fedex.
UPSNewbie
Well-Known Member
Winner.
well if anyone care admins are losing their jobs-North Jersey and Metro Jersey consolidated and no mangement lost their jobs, they are all on special assigments until they FIND them something, why is it always the workers and not the ones that sit behind the computer playing with numbers???????
haydendavid380
is property of UPS
backinbrown
respect my authority
telemetric will take care of that for us
we will not need as much supervision by actual sup's because eventually telemetric can tell center manager who is naughty and who is nice.
eventually they will phase out the number of sups needed.
Nostradamus told me this
thus it is so.
Thats a good point. Tail swaps were on the downturn, but I am afraid if we loose our Aircraft Mechanics in big numbers like that it will only get worse. Nothing worse than loading a 747 or MD11 and have to turn around and off load it to another aircraft. That cost the Company just as much cash as keeping those jobs.
BrownTail28
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Not sure which gateway you are at, but I only see them defer if it is a non critical flight component that can be fixed at the destination gateway. I have seen heavy maintenance by UPS acmx with my own eyes. Smaller gateways arent always equipped to perform these kinds of things....
ups767mech
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tieguy
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If you want to be miserable working here then please do so without including my management issues into your your hate trip. If I even think about feeling sorry for myself I just look across the street at the empty house that go foreclosed on. That usually puts things into perspective for me.
tieguy
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trplnkl
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That might be his house across the street, he's laid off.
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