Brownslave688
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There was a Facebook post going around recently about a windmill for under $1000 that could power most homes...
Solar and other alternative power
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DriveInDriveOut
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My neighbors 20 feet to the right and 10 feet to the left would love that I'm sure lol.
But speaking of local energy sourcing, Tesla is in the home energy game too with their powerwall systems. People think of Tesla for their cars, but the real money is in batteries.
BrownArmy
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It's not even that - patents aren't the point.
China is investing heavily in solar, at a major scale, and are doubling their implementation of solar panels year by year.
(Coal in China, like the US, is plummeting).
The joke used to be that the US designed it, Japan copied and perfected it, and China split the difference and sold it to the world.
Well, maybe it's the same joke.
We're falling behind, but, 'Murica!
It will be fine
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Well I'm sure no one learned anything from that and it will certainly happen again. Engineers are idiots and won't alter the design to prevent that in the future.
newfie
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to your point not so much to you making it:
1)there are legal workers that come in on work visa's to pick the crops.
2)an illegal immigrant does not have options that allow them to work higher paying jobs. their status therefore forces them into the low paying jobs. to make the above argument you are in a sense promoting servitude based on their legal status.
3)the industry is slowing converting to more and more mechanical options to address the shrinking labor pool. many of these jobs will disappear anyway as the technology improves.
newfie
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12 billion savings his first month. interesting
Wally
BrownCafe Innovator & King of Puns
Lol, China burning massive amounts of coal to produce cheap electricity in order to make our solar panels.
www.wsj.com
Behind the Rise of U.S. Solar Power, a Mountain of Chinese Coal
The West’s transition to renewable energy relies heavily on China’s low-cost, high-emissions industry, and governments and companies are looking for changes at the source.
www.wsj.com
Method Mensch
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True about Kennedy. The big $ came from Bill Koch. He owns a place in Osterville, overlooking the South side of Cape Cod. Oh yeah, he also made a killing peddling coal and oil. @-h0le moves on both cases.
floridays
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Gotta problem with that you earth hater, we're just trying to save our mother.Lol, China burning massive amounts of coal to produce cheap electricity in order to make our solar panels.
Behind the Rise of U.S. Solar Power, a Mountain of Chinese Coal
The West’s transition to renewable energy relies heavily on China’s low-cost, high-emissions industry, and governments and companies are looking for changes at the source.
Gotta break a few eggs to make an omelette, crack a few heads to busta strike, you got that tuff guy?
Punk
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Method Mensch
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I have solar panels on my garage, net metered. One of the best investments I ever made. Between green generation credits, the money I saved on electricity, and federal and state tax credits, it paid for itself in 5 years. Panels and inverters guaranteed for 20 years. Big fan of solar.
newfie
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leave my damn eggs alone
floridays
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At your age, even if you change teams, you gots no eggs.leave my damn eggs alone
I think.
DriveInDriveOut
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You make a great point. It is a terrible investment without marxist government subsidies for an inferior method of energy production.
tourists24
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Pay your fair share you selfish person.
Wally
BrownCafe Innovator & King of Puns
Nothing wrong with solar, but if we are allowing a country to burn massive amounts of coal, in a unregulated manner in order to produce those units, let's not pretend like we are solving any so-called climate issues.
Method Mensch
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I would not have done it without the tax breaks, it would not have been a good financial decision. To try to paint tax credits as "marxist" is either ignorance or silliness. Tax credits allow you to pay less in taxes to the government and to keep more in your bank account. How is that "marxist"?
Let's also consider that oil and coal have had billions in tax breaks. The depletion allowance, the federal marginal well tax credit, and federal enhanced oil recovery credit, to rattle a few off. So, DIDO; are you trying to be funny or did you, once again, get the facts wrong?
DriveInDriveOut
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You make a great point. It is a terrible investment without marxist government subsidies for an inferior method of energy production.
Method Mensch
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The solar panels have an estimated life of 25 years. The rough calculation is the carbon footprint of manufacturing, installing, and transporting the panels is offset after 2 years of use.
Method Mensch
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What makes it an inferior method? Are Oil, gas, coal all all terrible investments without the flotilla of tax breaks they get? Would you classify the oil, gas and coal industry tax breaks as "marxist government subsidies"?
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