For half my life UPS has been drilling into me the 340 methods and I have drunk the kool-ade. Now that I've become Mister Training Video Method Guy the company does not want to believe that their driver has actually digested and regirgitated what I have been fed. What gives?This is why i always doa couple things wrong. I forget to grab my handrail on purpose and ack when I don't need to. My one supe didn't find it amusing when I was driving with my knees but it gave him something to write down.
Silly you.....if evaluation were unable to find fault with your methods, there would be no need for improvement and further evaluation. Should that occur, the concept of subsequent loftier goals at UPS would be at risk. Obviously you need to watch a few more training films to grasp this concept and someone needs to have a talk with your supervisor if he found less than four faults during your last evaulation.
Silly you.....if evaluation were unable to find fault with your methods, there would be no need for improvement and further evaluation.
No he would not have made them up. I carry a copy of the 340's with me on the road. As a steward I've made it my business to know as many of these as I can since I always try to lead by example. When a noobie, whether salary or hourly, asks me a question, I want to be able to give them a clear and concise answere. A well taught sup is always an asset."...so I threw him three bones."
I wonder if you hadn't thrown him the bones..... Would he have lied and made up 3 things????
I had my annual space and vis yesterday and the supe found one thing wrong. He said he needed to find more than that wrong, so I threw him three bones. Has anybody else had this happen?
When I was in pkg every sup had to work 6 months minimum as a pkg driver before they could advance. Back then I would listen to a sup give me driving advice. Since then they now go to DTS (driver training school) for a couple of weeks and come out thinking they have the expeiriance. Now they will come up to you a say you can do this or not do that because they read it in a book. I don`t know whether it`s funny,pathetic,insulting ,or dangerous when they say something. You can tell it`s out of a book when it`s a generic answer. They say do "X" and you ask "what about when this happens during X?" and you stop them like a deer in the headlights. I went out with a new sup who had to give some ride alongs to show what he learned in DTS. He`s driving along pointing out what mirrors he`s looking at,etc, when I, in a near panic, point out he better look out he front because he`s closing too fast on the truck in front of us. He does one of those "jerk awake" moves,jumps into the next lane over, and misses the trailer in front of us by a couple of feet. Afterwords I told him to pull over at the oasis. He asked for what and I told him either I`m driving back to the bldg or I`m taking a cab back. I drove back and told him he could take care of telling someone about this or I could. He went and told the mgr that he felt uncomfortable and wanted to go back to DTS. This is a slam to mgmt or at least to their sup driver training policy.
Aww, look at the little bad rep comment tie left for me. Don't go the coward route tie, face me in here. Nobody said drivers are perfect. But for the ones that happen to know what they are doing and manage to not mess up during an evaluation, then yes the supes lack integrity when they falsify documents to make themselves look somehow more apt to find and correct fault.tieguy said:your comment indicate the drivers are all perfect and the sups all lack integrity. Pretty ****ing weak.
Aww, look at the little bad rep comment tie left for me. Don't go the coward route tie, face me in here. Nobody said drivers are perfect. But for the ones that happen to know what they are doing and manage to not mess up during an evaluation, then yes the supes lack integrity when they falsify documents to make themselves look somehow more apt to find and correct fault.
Perhaps we just have different definitions of the word integrity. I'm going by this one:
1. Steadfast adherence to a strict moral or ethical code.
2. The state of being unimpaired; soundness.
3. The quality or condition of being whole or undivided; completeness.
Source: integrity - definition of integrity by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.
I am guessing you are doing nothing more than coming to your own defense as you've probably done the exact same thing many times. In my dictionary, you lack integrity. I await the definition which says it is ok to make up answers on an evaluation. It's not an attack tie, by definition this practice is unethical. The supes are just trying to make themselves look better to corporate: "Oooo good thing that supe was able to correct that driver! His observational skills probably saved us an accident!"
I like this definition too:
scam (skm) Slang
A fraudulent business scheme; a swindle.
tr.v. scammed, scam·ming, scams
To defraud; swindle.
Source: scam - definition of scam by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.
It's not like we're talking about a huge secret... most drivers know the reports only serve to be cosmetic improvements for a supe's career. If we really took them seriously, there would be no need to "make up a few mistakes". Management doesn't take them seriously, so neither do I.
See how that works?
I think he's trying to say that 3 weeks of school (though intense), is not equal to 15 years of driving experience.
The DTS graduate mentioned was so involved in his "by the book" methods that he forgot to look where he was going!
Myself, I appreciate an OJS ride. It helps to get reminded of things that fall by the wayside. Try to think of the ride like that. Take what you can from it, and forgive the DTS grad for his actual on-road driving inexperience.
Tie, it's not my infatuation with management... it's your constant attempts to defend unethical management practices. Once again you dodged the obvious: does management engage in "making up mistakes" on space and vis evaluations? Too many people have said yes they do. I take this aversion to the topic to mean you're equally guilty...another post showing your infatuation with management. In the process management rules your life through your obsession. I really hope you get some mental health help before its too late.
Cach DTS is considered by many to be the most intense school UPS has. Preperation alone requires a minimum of 4 weeks of constant drilling to get yourself ready for this three week school. Could you give us some examples of specific instructions you were given from the book that an experienced driver would not do? I'm trying to see where DTS is failing in your eyes.