Supplement status

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by BrownMonk, Nov 26, 2018.

  1. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    Nope, I'm afraid the script has been completely revealed.

    Not only does every full timer have to vote, so does at least 15% of the indegent part time work force....and not only on the first offer, but with each subsequent offer as well.

    If not, these supplements will be ratified with the new found clarity of the IBT Constitution's 50%/two-thirds rule that somehow didn't exist or apply in 2013-14.

    Then, when the remaining indigents have been separated from the herd, the IBT will just impose the standing offers from the Company (per Art 12, sec 6)...."in the best interest of the IBT and it's subordinate bodies", a notion clearly demonstrated in 2013-14.

    In my opinion, it must all be torn down and rebuilt before it's too late, or the IBT must have leaders in place to "interpret" the present language to fit the "autonomy" and vocational demographics of each contract.
     
    Last edited: Dec 10, 2018
  2. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt


    Haven't we covered this multiple times ?


    In 2013 the master passed.

    So, negotiations were required by the IBT constitution on the supplements that

    were voted down. When it became readily apparent, those remaining supplements

    would never pass (because of the TeamCare situation)


    That is when the IBT executive board, amended the constitution.


    This is like a broken record....



    -Bug-
     
  3. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    No, you pick and choose what nuances you want to acknowledge, as if the Master passing is spelled out as some sort of caveat in the IBT Constitution in regards to failed supplements???

    So let me phrase it as "close to home" as I can, ignoring the many other similarly failed supplements then and now:

    Why wasn't the Central Region Supplement not ratified under the "50%/two-thirds rule" when it was voted down by less that 50% of the membership in 2013, then subsequently renegotiated and ratified with improvements???

    ....while in 2018, after the very same supplement was again voted down, again with less than 50% of the membership voting, was it considered ratified???

    Your Jedi mind tricks and slight of hand doesn't work with me.




    ~Bbbl~™
     
    • Like Like x 3
    • Agree Agree x 1
    • Winner Winner x 1
    • Creative Creative x 1
    • List
  4. BakerMayfield2018

    BakerMayfield2018 Fight the power.

    Merry Christmas!!!!42570E28-FCCB-4FEE-B95C-931D508E9675.gif
     
  5. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    [​IMG]

    Retro check blues...
     
  6. BakerMayfield2018

    BakerMayfield2018 Fight the power.

    It got stuck behind the seat. I’m sorry. Lol
     
  7. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt


    Well....

    Yes it is.


    In the event such a special rider or supplement is not approved by the affected members, and the master agreement is ratified, the supplemental negotiating committee shall meet with the master negotiating committee to identify the issues which resulted in the rejection of the special rider or supplement. The master negotiating committee shall assist the supplemental negotiating committee when bargaining resumes with the employer in an effort to resolve the issues. In the event the parties cannot reach a negotiated settlement, the master negotiating committee shall have the authority to determine the appropriate action to be taken.


    https://teamster.filecamp.com/0/teamster/binary/25np-re7bjk5k.pdf


    What's not to understand ?



    -Bug-
     
  8. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    We don't understand why the above bold print didn't happened???



    ~Bbbl~™
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Agree Agree x 1
    • List
  9. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt


    Not once....

    Have I ever tried to speak "on behalf" of the IBT.


    I just point out some obvious truth's.
     
  10. JustDeliverIt

    JustDeliverIt Active Member

    Just had our local meeting tonight (Upstate NY Supplement). Our BA said he just received a final copy back from the IBT today. Balloting is going to be electronic but there had been no timetable set for the revote. Hope this lack of information helps.
     
    • Funny Funny x 2
    • Informative Informative x 2
    • List
  11. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    :bsbullf:

    You continually represent yourself as exactly that, while attempting to stir already muddy waters.
     
  12. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt



    [​IMG]


    [​IMG]
     
  13. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    [​IMG]
     
  14. What'dyabringmetoday???

    What'dyabringmetoday??? Well-Known Member

    Are you willing to share what local you are in?
     
  15. BrownMonk

    BrownMonk Old fart Package Car Driver

    Thanks for the update.
     
  16. JustDeliverIt

    JustDeliverIt Active Member

    449
     
  17. browned out

    browned out Well-Known Member

    If They attempt to force the supplement thru in Metro Detroit; The same constitution that the Hoffa Slapdicks have been abusing will be their downfall. Charges will be forthcoming. Forcing thru Metro Detroit's Rider is not in the best interest of the union or the members. These jokers have already sealed their fate of being voted out in the upcoming local election. They did not fulfill their Duty of Fair Representation during contract negotiations at the National level, the Central Region level or the Metro Detroit level.

    The Bell tolls for these criminals. The leadership at almost every level of the union will need to be torn down and rebuilt by hard working Teamsters who realize what this union once represented.
     
    • Like Like x 2
    • Informative Informative x 1
    • List
  18. What'dyabringmetoday???

    What'dyabringmetoday??? Well-Known Member

    Cool. I'm hearing that "some" are standing up against this crap supplement out your way. I am from 687- where the "lead negotiator" is. Yay. Total joke again this time around. Hope you guys get some lake effect so you get a white Christmas.
     
  19. JustDeliverIt

    JustDeliverIt Active Member

    Waiting to see the changes but not expecting much. As for the snow, it can come Christmas morning. Driving has been relatively smooth so far and want to keep it that way.
     
  20. I'm hearing they aren't changing anything. Just telling us it's good and hoping for a yes vote this time around.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
    • Funny Funny x 1
    • List