Tentative Agreement
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BrownBrokeDown
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I am still in part-time progression. August will be 3 years. Question for the more knowledgable. With starting pay being increased for p-timers (i have heard $2), will those of us already here get a lump sum raise when and if the contract takes effect of the same amount? Or how will it work?
teamsterdan
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the following was just posted by my local BA' I will be voting no!!!!!
[h=5]Teamsters Local 344
[/h][h=5]Preliminary details of the UPS Tentative Agreement:
5 year contract
Full time employees:
$0.70/hour years 1-3
$0.80/hour year 4
$1.00/hour year 5
$1/hour additional per year for H,W&P
Part time employees: same wage increases as above; $1.00/hour increase to the part time start rate
No health insurance premium co-payments.
Way more to come. Check your Union bulletin board for upcoming contract offer meeting dates.[/h]
[h=5]Teamsters Local 344
[/h][h=5]Preliminary details of the UPS Tentative Agreement:
5 year contract
Full time employees:
$0.70/hour years 1-3
$0.80/hour year 4
$1.00/hour year 5
$1/hour additional per year for H,W&P
Part time employees: same wage increases as above; $1.00/hour increase to the part time start rate
No health insurance premium co-payments.
Way more to come. Check your Union bulletin board for upcoming contract offer meeting dates.[/h]
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InsideUPS
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Originally Posted by opie
So they will create 2,000 jobs. What about the numerous unfilled 22.3 jobs which UPS has been dragging its feet on?
Does anyone remember this promise? How quickly we forget..
UPS Strike: Package Deal | PBS NewsHour | Aug. 19, 1997 | PBS
So they will create 2,000 jobs. What about the numerous unfilled 22.3 jobs which UPS has been dragging its feet on?
Does anyone remember this promise? How quickly we forget..
UPS Strike: Package Deal | PBS NewsHour | Aug. 19, 1997 | PBS
SUMMARY
UPS workers will return to work after a painful 15-day strike that affected mail delivery throughout the United States. The Teamsters Union won many of the bargaining points. 10,000 part-time jobs will become full-time positions and the union will maintain control of the pension funds.
UPS workers will return to work after a painful 15-day strike that affected mail delivery throughout the United States. The Teamsters Union won many of the bargaining points. 10,000 part-time jobs will become full-time positions and the union will maintain control of the pension funds.
Why is it horrible exactly? Free insurance after 12 months...Starting wage at around $10 an hour for tossing boxes...drivers in most areas will be making $36 an hour. I know that it seems that we should get more but in the grand scheme of things we're laborers. I don't think we should concede things but so far it doesn't look like we're conceding anything. Maybe benefits, but that's not fleshed out to us quite yet so I'm withholding judgement. COLA raises on top of our regular raises. I'm sorry...I don't see the bad side compared to previous contracts.
InsideUPS
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The MAJOR issue will be the health insurance (both retiree and existing employees). We stand to lose far more than we gain in raises if our health insurance is sub-par. For existing part-time employees....we cannot have better health insurance than we are receiving now.
READ CLOSELY.....what the IBT has to say here...
"The tentative agreement covering UPS package employees moves 140,000 workers into Teamster-controlled health plans from company plans to maintain current strong benefits for all UPS Teamsters while growing the funds for Teamsters in all industries into the future" ..
I have no doubt but what this will be good for the CS Teamster Healthcare plan in general......BUT.....I can almost guarantee you that it will come at some expense to UPS Teamster employees.....who now have NO 20% co-pay...etc....
balland chain
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OH.. if they are not having to pay that 20% like we do in the central states plan, get ready...it sucks...and just wait until you go see a specialist... Expect central states to send you the explanation of benefits, with the "amount you may owe" to be the entire balance for treatment... Go ahead and send your appeals, you can send two..then expect to get two denial letters...Save your extra cash to cover your medical bills.. And pray to God you stay healthy....
turdburglar
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As a part-timer, I am quite insulted at what will apparently be a $1.00 per hour increase to the starting part-time rate. That makes $9.50, which is what I started at with the skilled position differential. It is exactly the same as going backwards for a lot of part-timers. Part-time poverty will continue at UPS if this contract is ratified.
Maybe it is just the demographics of the membership of this board, but it seems like far too many people are happy with what full-timers are getting, while ignoring the fact that their fellow union brothers and sisters doing part-time work are still getting screwed after 30 years. It has always been the full-timers voting "yes" to the contracts of the past where part-timers were getting screwed. It has to stop sometime, and now is the best time, when the company is making record profits in a relatively slow economy.
I know that many full-timers will argue that part-timers need to use their vote, go to union meetings, etc., but it is hard to care when we make so little for the (arguably) more difficult work that we do compared to what full-timers make. It will be even harder for the more informed part-timers to care if this contract is ratified. Knowing that part-timers do not vote in nearly as substantial numbers as full-timers, it really is up to the full-timers whether or not part-timers continue to get screwed.
As a part-timer, I know what my vote will be, and I know what I will tell all my fellow union brothers and sisters in the facility in which I work to vote. I implore full-timers to do the same. The company (and the union) can do much better than this for part-timers, and there truly is no better time than now.
Maybe it is just the demographics of the membership of this board, but it seems like far too many people are happy with what full-timers are getting, while ignoring the fact that their fellow union brothers and sisters doing part-time work are still getting screwed after 30 years. It has always been the full-timers voting "yes" to the contracts of the past where part-timers were getting screwed. It has to stop sometime, and now is the best time, when the company is making record profits in a relatively slow economy.
I know that many full-timers will argue that part-timers need to use their vote, go to union meetings, etc., but it is hard to care when we make so little for the (arguably) more difficult work that we do compared to what full-timers make. It will be even harder for the more informed part-timers to care if this contract is ratified. Knowing that part-timers do not vote in nearly as substantial numbers as full-timers, it really is up to the full-timers whether or not part-timers continue to get screwed.
As a part-timer, I know what my vote will be, and I know what I will tell all my fellow union brothers and sisters in the facility in which I work to vote. I implore full-timers to do the same. The company (and the union) can do much better than this for part-timers, and there truly is no better time than now.
IzzyTheNose
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Been campaigning hard for the past couple weeks for everyone to make sure they vote. Now I'm going to lean hard and tell them why they should vote "No" on this agreement.
The starting wage increase is a paltry $0.50 over the old contract. Yes, I understand the starting wage is $8.50. But after 3 months, it moves up to $9.50, and on the old contract, after a new-hire has hit his one month anniversary, it goes up to $10.
On the new contract, after a year of employment, a new-hire with 1 year seniority will be at $10.20. 20 cents? Give me a friend'ing break. And all of you saying they can get the $1 raise for sorting, that's only if there's an available spot. In most hubs, these spots are filled by combos and high seniority part-timers. Getting that extra dollar is by no means a guarantee.
I don't want a perfect contract. I want a fair one. And what they're offering leaves a lot to be desired.
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What'dyabringmetoday???
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Re: I guess there is no strike....
One would think that this issue would be at the top of the list on Brown Cafe. Guess not.
One would think that this issue would be at the top of the list on Brown Cafe. Guess not.
trickpony1
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Re: I guess there is no strike....
Is this kinda like "....we'll have to what until it passes to see what's in it.".
Where have we heard that?
Is this kinda like "....we'll have to what until it passes to see what's in it.".
Where have we heard that?
balland chain
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Re: I guess there is no strike....
I remember that one.. it was ratified and they changed our pension, at least they did that down south...
Re: I guess there is no strike....
If there were any details it could be stickied, but, there are not in this thread. That I saw.....................
If there were any details it could be stickied, but, there are not in this thread. That I saw.....................
Don't we need a Saudi prince for that...............
trickpony1
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Re: I guess there is no strike....
Actually I was refering to obamacare but, indeed, you are correct.
Actually I was refering to obamacare but, indeed, you are correct.
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