Termination

[PT Car Washer]

I'm saying it's a warning letter at best and absolutely not against the law here.

That's why I tried to ask the OP where they reside, because as so many refuse to acknowledge, we aren't all under the same rules and guidelines.

But hey, don't let me knock you from your soapbox???

You are defending distracted driving? How many times a day do you not see a dangerous situation because someone is playing on their smart phone instead of watching traffic. At the very least sitting at a green light while they finish their text message and you are forced to sit through another cycle. I too am guilty.

 

[zubenelgenubi]

The law about not using an electronic devise while driving a commercial vehicle. Did you not read and sign the agreement about distracted driving?

That's a moving violation, and only if a law enforcement officer catches you and cites you. Since when does an on road sup equate to law enforcement? Also, did you not read article 6 section 1 of the contract?

Yes you going to be terminate because you know what can happen , while driving you can change a whole family's life in a mere second , either it be your family or someone else's. Shame own you sir !!

There's distracted driving and there's taking your eyes off the road (which you do several times a minute while driving for various legitimate reasons). Let's not make mountains out of mole hills.

 

[542thruNthru]

The law about not using an electronic devise while driving a commercial vehicle. Did you not read and sign the agreement about distracted driving?

Hmm sounds like a extra contract agreement and I don't sign those.

 

[Bubblehead]

Not that it matters.

It doesn't exist.

 

[Bubblehead]

You are defending distracted driving? How many times a day do you not see a dangerous situation because someone is playing on their smart phone instead of watching traffic. At the very least sitting at a green light while they finish their text message and you are forced to sit through another cycle. I too am guilty.

I am defending "progressive discipline", which is designed to give all of us an opportunity to correct perceived shortcomings before our heads are lopped off.

It's not a "cardinal offense".

 

[PT Car Washer]

That's a moving violation, and only if a law enforcement officer catches you and cites you. Since when does an on road sup equate to law enforcement? Also, did you not read article 6 section 1 of the contract?



There's distracted driving and there's taking your eyes off the road (which you do several times a minute while driving for various legitimate reasons). Let's not make mountains out of mole hills.

Do it myself way too many times a day. Sup should have issued a verbal warning instead of raising it to a termination. Poor judgement on his part.

 

[Rack em]

You are defending distracted driving? How many times a day do you not see a dangerous situation because someone is playing on their smart phone instead of watching traffic. At the very least sitting at a green light while they finish their text message and you are forced to sit through another cycle. I too am guilty.

This happened to me today. See a car slowly drifting into my lane and when I passed him his eyes were glued to his phone. maroon.

 

[zubenelgenubi]

These true believers and their culture of safety nonsense. I'm an adult, capable of making my own decisions. If one of those decisions hurts someone else or their property, or puts someone else at risk of eminent harm, then I will face the consequences of my decisions. Until then, mind your business, and I'll mind mine.

 

[zubenelgenubi]

I am defending "progressive discipline", which is designed to give all of us an opportunity to correct perceived shortcomings before our heads are lopped off.

It's not a "cardinal offense".

It only would have been if his failure to follow methods lead to a serious accident.

 

[PT Car Washer]

This happened to me today. See a car slowly drifting into my lane and when I passed him his eyes were glued to his phone. maroon.

Guy beside me is glued to his phone while brakes lights are on in front of him. At 40 MPH. Guardian angels are plenty busy.

 

[Rack em]

Guy beside me is glued to his phone while brakes lights are on in front of him. At 40 MPH. Guardian angels are plenty busy.

The way you typed it makes it sound like you are currently driving. That be would hilarious if you are lol!

 

[zubenelgenubi]

No i was caught off gaurd, i knew that i was guilty and that he saw me so i just kept my cool and did not want to make things worse

You may be able to file a harassment grievance for being threatened with termination over a non-terminable offense, especially since they allowed you to continue working.

 

[PT Car Washer]

The way you typed it makes it sound like you are currently driving. That be would hilarious if you are lol!

Typing with an Old Milwaukee in one hand and sitting at the keyboard.

 

[542thruNthru]

Typing with an Old Milwaukee in one hand and sitting at the keyboard.

Drinking that beer should be a fireable offense!

 

[Rack em]

Typing with an Old Milwaukee in one hand and sitting at the keyboard.

How did you get your whole computer in your car?!

 

[Brown echo]

That's a moving violation, and only if a law enforcement officer catches you and cites you. Since when does an on road sup equate to law enforcement? Also, did you not read article 6 section 1 of the contract?



There's distracted driving and there's taking your eyes off the road (which you do several times a minute while driving for various legitimate reasons). Let's not make mountains out of mole hills.

Thank you Sir ! ...... great point a moving violation , Got exactly what you deserved a ticket , now let UPS know that you already had that on your record let said you have a CDL , or you hurt someone !???

 

[PT Car Washer]

Drinking that beer should be a fireable offense!

All a poor PT can afford.

 

[Frankie's Friend]

The law about not using an electronic devise while driving a commercial vehicle. Did you not read and sign the agreement about distracted driving?

Define "using".

Would that be under article 17i?

"Avoid all in-cab distractions".

Is that defined as anything that would possibly make you take your eyes off the road?

Like your DIAD light coming on and the audible noise it makes that causes you to take your eyes off the wheel? Especially at night when it's dark in the cab?

Their own training instructs you to observe your instrument gauge(s) while driving, thus taking your eyes off the road.

Does the OP have phone records showing that the management called him anytime during the day when he was driving? They know when the wheels are turning but yet call him in his cell phone baiting him to answer.

This is no more than a warning ltr. The laws governing "reaching for" and/or illegally using a mobile device was modified as follows:

 

[PT Car Washer]

How did you get your whole computer in your car?!

2003 Ranger Super Cab. Long extension cord.

 

[PT Car Washer]

Define "using".

Would that be under article 17i?

"Avoid all in-cab distractions".

Is that defined as anything that would possibly make you take your eyes off the road?

Like your DIAD light coming on and the audible noise it makes that causes you to take your eyes off the wheel? Especially at night when it's dark in the cab?

Their own training instructs you to observe your instrument gauge(s) while driving, thus taking your eyes off the road.

Does the OP have phone records showing that the management called him anytime during the day when he was driving? They know when the wheels are turning but yet call him in his cell phone baiting him to answer.

This is no more than a warning ltr. The laws governing "reaching for" and/or illegally using a mobile device was modified as follows:
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