Discussion in 'Current Events' started by moreluck, Feb 24, 2014.

  1. moreluck

    moreluck golden ticket member

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  2. wkmac

    wkmac Well-Known Member

    Seems to me most victims of muslim terrorists are other muslims. Based on statistical odds, the question seems to be just how concern should we be of muslim terrorism?

    I've decided the American Automobile driver and the American Policeman are statistically far greater dangers. Along with American hospitals.

    The problem with terms like terrorist is in how easily they can be twisted to fit the agendas of others.
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  3. moreluck

    moreluck golden ticket member

    The term "terrorist" is more inclusive as a thread title than what was available to me to post within. Some of the thread titles are way too specific to apply to what I wanted to post.

    In your first sentence.......it sounds like we should discount the muslim victims like they don't count? It just didn't sound\read right to me.

    MAKAVELI Well-Known Member

    It seems to me the bigger threat to our everyday lives is the American terrorists. You know the ones that shoot up movie theaters, schools, shopping malls etc. They represent a much bigger danger to the general public then some extremists on the other side of the world.
  5. Baba gounj

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  6. moreluck

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  7. ImWaitingForTheDay

    ImWaitingForTheDay Annoy a conservative....Think for yourself

    I would like to list many of the crimes committed by Lincoln and his Administration.

    Also Lincoln's Violations of the US Constitution.

    The Presidential oath of office that Lincoln swore to was "to preserve, protect and defend" the Constitution of the US.

    I apologize up front for truthful, accurate, factual posts here that may hurt any Lincoln fan's feelings...

    Secession of states was not prohibited by the US Constitution at that time. Therefore it was completely legal...

    #1 Lincoln ordered the military blockade of Southern ports.

    This an act of war.

    Only Congress can do that.

    At that time Lincoln certainly violated the US Constitution.

    #2 Lincoln ordered hundreds of Northern newspapers who dared to speak out against him to be shut down. And their owners and editors were arrested for disloyalty.

    This is a clear violation of the 1st Amendment of the Constitution that Lincoln swore to uphold.

    #3 Lincoln ordered the arrest of Ohio Congressman Clement Vallandigham for the crime of speaking out against him.

    Can you imagine that?

    #4 Ex parte Merryman,

    Chief Justice of the US Roger Taney, sitting as a judge of the United States Circuit Court for the District of Maryland, ruled that Lincoln had violated the US Constitution when he illegally suspended the Writ of Habeas Corpus.

    After hearing this Lincoln signed an arrest warrant to have the Chief Justice of the US arrested.

    #5 US Constitution Article lll...

    Section 3. Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them.

    Lincoln committed treason.

    Lincoln waged war upon his own country. Unless one considers secession legal and the Confederacy was a sovereign nation.

    #6 Lincoln sent Union troops door to door in areas of Maryland, a Union state, to confiscate weapons.

    This is a clear violation of the 2nd Amendment of the Constitution.


    Many Constitutional violations against Maryland

    'Maryland my Maryland' was published calling Lincoln a tyrant and a despot and a vandal.

    Lincoln as already mentioned, trashed the Constitution by suspending the Writ of Habeas Corpus and sending troops door to door confiscating weapons in areas of Maryland.

    Maryland was a Union state.

    Lincoln ordered the arrest of thousands Marylanders for the crime of 'suspected Southern sympathies'.

    Lincoln ordered the arrest of US Congressman Henry May representing Maryland. #7

    Lincoln also had arrested...

    Most of the Maryland State Legislature #8

    Most of the Baltimore city council #9

    The police commissioner of Baltimore #10

    The mayor of Baltimore #11

    Thousands of prominent Maryland citizens. #12

    These people were arrested and held in Military prisons, without trial, some of them for years.

    This trashing of the Constitution upset many Marylanders. One of them was named Booth.

    Committing so many crimes against Maryland would end up giving Lincoln a big "headache".


    April 25 1861, When it looks as though Maryland may secede from the Union, Lincoln sends a letter to General Winfield Scott giving him permission to bombard Maryland's Cities.

    This war criminal Lincoln couldn't wait to bombard innocent civilians. We call that Terrorism these days.

    #13 Lincoln issues the Emancipation Proclamation.

    This is a direct violation of the US Constitution and the US Supreme Courts decision on the matter.

    #14 The Lincoln administration allowed the taking of private property for public use without just compensation or due process of law.

    This is a clear violation of the 5th Amendment.

    A prime example is the Union army stealing Robert E Lees home, Arlington House, which they used as Headquarters.

    Since dead Union soldiers were stacking up like cordwood, they started burying them in Lee's yard. There were so many Union soldiers graves here, this was to become Arlington National Cemetery.

    #15 The Lincoln Administration routinely used water torture against the thousands of Union prisoners arrested and jailed without trail.

    This violates the 8th Amendment,

    "Cruel and unusual punishment".

    #16 Lincoln was Commander-in-Chief of an Army whose invasion of the South resulted in the deaths of 50,000 Southern civilians.
    Nothing against ABE,but....................
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  8. moreluck

    moreluck golden ticket member

    Some people take comfort in living in the past.....comfortable? Lincoln's dead, you know?
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  9. oldngray

    oldngray nowhere special

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  10. ImWaitingForTheDay

    ImWaitingForTheDay Annoy a conservative....Think for yourself

    Like this Democrat?????
  11. Baba gounj

    Baba gounj pensioner

    During WWII , the Germans use of their missiles would be concerned an act of terror .
  12. Baba gounj

    Baba gounj pensioner

    The Secret Government Rulebook For Labeling You a Terrorist

    The Obama administration has quietly approved a substantial expansion of the terrorist watchlist system, authorizing a secret process that requires neither “concrete facts” nor “irrefutable evidence” to designate an American or foreigner as a terrorist, according to a key government document obtained by The Intercept.

    The “March 2013 Watchlisting Guidance,” a 166-page document issued last year by the National Counterterrorism Center, spells out the government’s secret rules for putting individuals on its main terrorist database, as well as the no fly list and the selectee list, which triggers enhanced screening at airports and border crossings. The new guidelines allow individuals to be designated as representatives of terror organizations without any evidence they are actually connected to such organizations, and it gives a single White House official the unilateral authority to place entire “categories” of people the government is tracking onto the no fly and selectee lists. It broadens the authority of government officials to “nominate” people to the watchlists based on what is vaguely described as “fragmentary information.” It also allows for dead people to be watchlisted.

  13. moreluck

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  14. oldngray

    oldngray nowhere special

  15. moreluck

    moreluck golden ticket member

    Hmmm, I wonder what the White House’s motivation for removing them was?

    Via Times of Israel:

    An annual report delivered recently to the US Senate by James Clapper, the director of National Intelligence, removed Iran and Hezbollah from its list of terrorism threats, after years in which they featured in similar reports.

    The unclassified version of the Worldwide Threat Assessment of the US Intelligence Communities, dated February 26, 2015 (PDF), noted Iran’s efforts to combat Sunni extremists, including those of the ultra-radical Islamic State group, who were perceived to constitute the preeminent terrorist threat to American interests worldwide.

    In describing Iran’s regional role, the report noted the Islamic Republic’s “intentions to dampen sectarianism, build responsive partners, and deescalate tensions with Saudi Arabia,” but cautioned that “Iranian leaders—particularly within the security services—are pursuing policies with negative secondary consequences for regional stability and potentially for Iran.
  16. moreluck

    moreluck golden ticket member

  17. realbrown1

    realbrown1 Annoy a liberal today. Hit them with facts.

    It's because Obama hates Israel and may be a Muslim.

    What else explains his actions?

    I mean it looks like he is just giving the middle east to the radical muslims.
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  18. realbrown1

    realbrown1 Annoy a liberal today. Hit them with facts.

    I wholly back everything President Lincoln did.

    You obviously do not.

    Liberals, can never be on the correct side of history......ever!!!
  19. Sportello

    Sportello Well-Known Member

    Toddlers have killed more people in America than terrorists since 2002.
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  20. Baba gounj

    Baba gounj pensioner

    What's the body count so far by Obama's Dreamers ?