The Russians Are Coming, The Russians Are Coming!

[vantexan]

You're saying that the Ukrainians put fighting men and material into civilian buildings.

That's enough for me.

Case is closed.

There is only one reason for them to do that.

Yah, to get civilians killed to get sympathy and support. Thank goodness the Russians were willing to kill them. The planned worked!

 

[vantexan]

I'm happy that I've gotten him to admit armored vehicles hidden parked in apartment buildings that Russians attack.

That's it right there.

Ukraine using human shields, by his own admission.

We are done here.

I'm just playing along with you. Yah, let's destroy a whole building full of civilians because an armored vehicle is parked out back. Seems reasonable.

 

[wilberforce15]

You don't know the buildings were full of fighting men. But every man in the country between 18 and 60 is a fighting man so I guess in your estimation that makes it ok to attack civilian neighborhoods. I suppose the hundreds of civilians dead on the streets after the Russians retreated were all Ukrainian soldiers? Were they told to ride their bicycles around so the Russians would shoot at them and get headlines? Hey, anything for the cause, right?

#triggered

I've broken your reality-compass.

 

[vantexan]

#triggered

I've broken your reality-compass.

Yah, anyone defending the killing of civilians tends to get me pissed. Congratulations.

 

[wilberforce15]

Yah, anyone defending the killing of civilians tends to get me pissed. Congratulations.

The only one who did that was a figment of your triggered imagination.

 

[vantexan]

The only one who did that was a figment of your triggered imagination.

Nope, in your estimation all those civilian apartment buildings were full of fighting men and equipment so legitimate targets. It wasn't a Russian reign of terror, it was a legitimate military action. No war crimes at all. You're nuts.

 

[wilberforce15]

Nope, in your estimation all those civilian apartment buildings were full of fighting men and equipment so legitimate targets. It wasn't a Russian reign of terror, it was a legitimate military action. No war crimes at all. You're nuts.

 

[vantexan]

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There you go. Ukraine is one big manipulation of the American public. Conspiracy theory.

 

[wilberforce15]

There you go. Ukraine is one big manipulation of the American public. Conspiracy theory.

Events can be real and also be propagandized.

The best propaganda is to use things that really happened in a deceptive fashion.

 

[wilberforce15]

 

[vantexan]

Events can be real and also be propagandized.

The best propaganda is to use things that really happened in a deceptive fashion.

And of course you're smart enough to discern the truth. Thank goodness you're here!

 

[wilberforce15]

And of course you're smart enough to discern the truth. Thank goodness you're here!

You're all really very lucky.

 

[vantexan]

You're all really very lucky.

Don't forget the Tesla advice. We are really lucky to have that!

 

[MAKAVELI]

I didn't say ANYTHING was okay. You are out of your mind or making things up.

I didn't say Ukraine was wrong to defend itself. I didn't say Russia was right to invade. I didn't say anything of the kind. You are writing fiction here.

I said believing Ukrainian propaganda makes you a maroon. Using human shields and blaming the enemy for barbarism is a very old, very tired, very universal tactic.

Get over it. We did it. They do it. Everyone does it.

They fire missiles and artillery indiscriminately. Russia does not care where they land and who they kill. You don't flatten entire cities and then try to claim you weren't intentionally killing civilians. The train station was full of people trying to flee not a military target.

 

[MAKAVELI]

The old question of who benefits is a helpful guide, here.

Ukraine has more to gain from headlines of slaughtered civilians than Russia has to gain from actually slaughtering them.

Therefore, suspicion and skepticism is the only correct take.

Russia tried to take Kyiv and failed miserably in large part because the citizens are fighting back. Slaughtering civilians is the Russian playbook. They do it everywhere they invade.

 

[wilberforce15]

Russia tried to take Kyiv and failed miserably in large part because the citizens are fighting back. Slaughtering civilians is the Russian playbook. They do it everywhere they invade.

That doesn't contradict anything I've said.

 

[wilberforce15]

They fire missiles and artillery indiscriminately. Russia does not care where they land and who they kill. You don't flatten entire cities and then try to claim you weren't intentionally killing civilians. The train station was full of people trying to flee not a military target.

You don't know who was there.

 

[BigGuy2732]

I hope all of the azov members are killed by Russian strikes.

 

[wilberforce15]

Truthful headline:

"Germans sink 173 tons of war material on a resupply ship with attempted human shields. Washington is glad they're dead so they can justify entering war. "

 

[MAKAVELI]

You don't know who was there.

Yes everyone but you Putin lovers knows these are civilian targets. Entire cities are flattened. No justification for that.