The Russians Are Coming, The Russians Are Coming!

[vantexan]

i posted how many dead from kim dotcom before

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"The extensive loss of life in Lebanon, Syria, Yemen and Libya is not included in this study."

I looked at that a bit. They're holding the U.S. responsible for the Cambodian genocide. For all the people the Soviet Union killed in Afghanistan in the '70's. In other words it's always the Americans fault even though it's others doing the killing. Right.

 

[Thebrownblob]

One would have to wonder if he had conquered Ukraine how long would it be until he was in Eastern Europe if they weren't in NATO?

Probably about one minute no doubt, but when we’re dealing with a bad guy we should expect that.

 

[vantexan]

no no you got missiles in poland as we speak.

and the americans have killed 20 million since ww2 which i just posted.

NATO supposedly exists to restrict warsaw, but when that collapsed, we got a new lie!

We don't have nuclear weapons in Poland.

 

[vantexan]

Probably about one minute no doubt, but when we’re dealing with a bad guy we should expect that.

And deal with it by expanding NATO.

 

[Thebrownblob]

And deal with it by expanding NATO.

Perhaps but we did say we would not. Why even make deals with criminals and bad guys? sort of lends to the idea that We never planned on holding our end of the bargain up. And if that was the case why didn’t we just say originally hey kiss our ass will expand NATO wherever we want, when we deem necessary. We double cross the double crosser. Making us dishonest.

 

[BigGuy2732]

I agree with that but it's popular in certain groups to say the U.S. killed a million Iraqis or more when every study of what actually happened comes up dramatically short of that. Or to say that we purposely target civilians. I think we shouldn't have invaded Iraq but as I see it there were a couple of good things that did come out of it. The war drew in a lot of Muslim extremists from many countries which we eliminated. And local Iraqis changed over to our side when they saw the extremists were much worse than us. Of course leave it to a Democratic administration to come in and muck everything up giving rise to ISIS and Iraq coming under the influence of Iran.

Lol know what other death total is a complete lie and fabrication?

 

[wilberforce15]

Russia launched missiles at Lviv today. Lviv has no military assets in the city and hasn’t since the beginning of the war. And these numbskulls are defending Putin and claiming American leaders and leaders of “rich” countries are evil while he is not.

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You know there are no military assets there....how?

Ukrainian propaganda department told you there were no military assets there.

 

[rickyb]

We don't have nuclear weapons in Poland.

you do have missiles though, and you have nukes in turkey

i tip my hat off to non NATO countries

 

[rickyb]

I looked at that a bit. They're holding the U.S. responsible for the Cambodian genocide. For all the people the Soviet Union killed in Afghanistan in the '70's. In other words it's always the Americans fault even though it's others doing the killing. Right.

actually ukraine now has been compared to that.

really i think this could be about china dominance. OR russia and china combined overtaking america as preeminent superpower. ukraine is just cannon fodder unfortunately.

 

[rickyb]

Perhaps but we did say we would not. Why even make deals with criminals and bad guys? sort of lends to the idea that We never planned on holding our end of the bargain up. And if that was the case why didn’t we just say originally hey kiss our ass will expand NATO wherever we want, when we deem necessary. We double cross the double crosser. Making us dishonest.

bc u are the bad guys too

canada bad too im sure. not same level of bad as america. maybe not as bad as russia i dont know.

 

[rickyb]

People dying in regional conflicts isn't the same as the U.S. attacking and killing them directly. Our country took sides. Primarily to stop communism.

to stop democracy

communism can be things like public banking, debt write offs, unionization, worker control of industry, whatever they want to call it...

 

[rickyb]

One would have to wonder if he had conquered Ukraine how long would it be until he was in Eastern Europe if they weren't in NATO?

how long until putin is in ireland? how long until putin is in austria? how long until putin is in finland?

theyre not in NATO.

 

[Thebrownblob]

to stop democracy

communism can be things like public banking, debt write offs, unionization, worker control of industry, whatever they want to call it...

“Democracy is indispensable to socialism”
Vladimir Lenin.

Pure democracy is just mob Rule. The very reason the United States is not a pure democracy, but a representative republic.

 

[rickyb]

“Democracy is indispensable to socialism”
Vladimir Lenin.

Pure democracy is just mob Rule. The very reason the United States is not a pure democracy but a representative republic.

ur right democracy can be ugly and im not completely familiar with the critique but i know its valid. although economically we have tyranny. politically we are ruled by money. the solution is more democracy than our economic and political reality.

robert george, cornel wests conservative friend, in favor of free market worker self directed jobs.

 

[rickyb]

“Democracy is indispensable to socialism”
Vladimir Lenin.

Pure democracy is just mob Rule. The very reason the United States is not a pure democracy, but a representative republic.

we shouldnt forget USA's ugly history of democracy where you couldnt vote if u didnt have property, women couldnt vote, blacks couldnt vote, etc. forget why that happened

 

[Thebrownblob]

we shouldnt forget USA's ugly history of democracy where you couldnt vote if u didnt have property, women couldnt vote, blacks couldnt vote, etc. forget why that happened

Sure I don’t disagree, and you should also not forget the rest of the world did much the same thing throughout its ugly history. Remind me who you believe are the good guys? you’re very good at pointing out you think everyone is the bad guy.

 

[vantexan]

You know there are no military assets there....how?

Ukrainian propaganda department told you there were no military assets there.

Russian propaganda department told you there were?

 

[wilberforce15]

Russian propaganda department told you there were?

Nope. I have no idea if there were weapons there. I know that lying in war is what happens.

Russians will lie about there being equipment there. Ukrainians will lie about there not being equipment there.

I think there probably were, but I really don't have a firm opinion. I just know that anybody who believes Ukraine is stupid.

 

[rickyb]

Sure I don’t disagree, and you should also not forget the rest of the world did much the same thing throughout its ugly history. Remind me who you believe are the good guys? you’re very good at pointing out you think everyone is the bad guy.

its probably more about rebellious social movements than leaders

i think your constitution was good for its time, but now its not very good.

i like the nordic countries. i like french protests. italy cooperatives.

 

[Thebrownblob]

its probably more about rebellious social movements than leaders

i think your constitution was good for its time, but now its not very good.

i like the nordic countries. i like french protests. italy cooperatives.

Yeah you’re right, The Constitution and those pesky amendments. I mean who wants freedom of speech? why in the world would anyone want the freedom to assemble. Clearly freedom of religion is an awful idea that government should be able to fix. Oh and don’t forget that stupid second amendment why in the world would you ever want The God-given to protect yourself? All that crap is outdated let’s give it to the Goodwill