The Russians Are Coming, The Russians Are Coming!

Thebrownblob

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no im not saying republican party sells hate, im saying FOX and msnbc sells hate for their respective parties

yes both parties are extremely corrupt. democrats sold out 25 years ago. republicans wouldve been even further before that. nixon was the last republican president who feared liberals, he passed a ton of good reforms.
Getting rid of the gold standard was good policy? I’m rather shocked you like Nixon he hired Henry Kissinger.
 
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rickyb

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Getting rid of the gold standard was good policy? I’m rather shocked you like Nixon he hired Henry Kissinger.
i dont like nixon, but he passed alot of reforms because he was afraid of movements

theres a quote in henry kissingers memoir where either he or nixon says "theyre coming to get us" and theyre talking about hte protestors outside the white house which they had barricaded with buses. this is a good example of how power works based on fear.

i doubt getting rid of the gold standard was good because i know one response to it was that it liberated financial flows.
 

Thebrownblob

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i dont like nixon, but he passed alot of reforms because he was afraid of movements

theres a quote in henry kissingers memoir where either he or nixon says "theyre coming to get us" and theyre talking about hte protestors outside the white house which they had barricaded with buses. this is a good example of how power works based on fear.

i doubt getting rid of the gold standard was good because i know one response to it was that it liberated financial flows.
Fake Federal Reserve Fiat for all!
 

vantexan

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how many places are we attacking now?

why dont u want every worker to own and vote at their place of work? why condemn workers to renting their labor?
Hey Ricky, the U.S. is wealthy because of its current system, capitalism. Millions of people are trying to get into the U.S. to have a better life. You want us to toss it all in favor of a system that isn't working anywhere. A relative handful of people in Italy doesn't prove anything. We don't even know how well they're doing. We have it bad enough in the U.S. dealing with one side which wants to take from those who produce and redistribute it to everyone. They're threatening to bring it all down. You honestly don't have a clue how things truly work.
 

PT 4 Life

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Hey Ricky, the U.S. is wealthy because of its current system, capitalism. Millions of people are trying to get into the U.S. to have a better life. You want us to toss it all in favor of a system that isn't working anywhere. A relative handful of people in Italy doesn't prove anything. We don't even know how well they're doing. We have it bad enough in the U.S. dealing with one side which wants to take from those who produce and redistribute it to everyone. They're threatening to bring it all down. You honestly don't have a clue how things truly work.

Yeah at the cost of human life. Slavery is an example of that.
 

vantexan

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i dont like nixon, but he passed alot of reforms because he was afraid of movements

theres a quote in henry kissingers memoir where either he or nixon says "theyre coming to get us" and theyre talking about hte protestors outside the white house which they had barricaded with buses. this is a good example of how power works based on fear.

i doubt getting rid of the gold standard was good because i know one response to it was that it liberated financial flows.
Getting rid of the gold standard allowed deficit spending and printing money to cover it. With a strong economy that can be covered. With a weak economy the temptation is there to print your way out of it as well as expand government with ever more spending to keep the masses happy. Exactly where we're at now and our high inflation is the result. I worked hard for a long time to get a pension. Now my pension which wasn't a lot to begin with is worth a good deal less. My father is seeing his savings being eaten up by higher costs. He's 83 and may have nothing but Social Security if he lives into his 90's. You constantly want government to do this or that for you. There are real world consequences for doing so.
 

rickyb

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Getting rid of the gold standard allowed deficit spending and printing money to cover it. With a strong economy that can be covered. With a weak economy the temptation is there to print your way out of it as well as expand government with ever more spending to keep the masses happy. Exactly where we're at now and our high inflation is the result. I worked hard for a long time to get a pension. Now my pension which wasn't a lot to begin with is worth a good deal less. My father is seeing his savings being eaten up by higher costs. He's 83 and may have nothing but Social Security if he lives into his 90's. You constantly want government to do this or that for you. There are real world consequences for doing so.
imagine if you didnt have SS lol

lots of things eat away at your purchasing power, which btw they dont account for bc if they did they would have to raise SS like healthcare, housing, etc

i forgot much of what i heard about coming off the gold standard, but it was a big deal
 

rickyb

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Hey Ricky, the U.S. is wealthy because of its current system, capitalism. Millions of people are trying to get into the U.S. to have a better life. You want us to toss it all in favor of a system that isn't working anywhere. A relative handful of people in Italy doesn't prove anything. We don't even know how well they're doing. We have it bad enough in the U.S. dealing with one side which wants to take from those who produce and redistribute it to everyone. They're threatening to bring it all down. You honestly don't have a clue how things truly work.
the US has wealth because the govt made the cost of labor very cheap by making things public, by having protective tariffs, and also because you are awash in resources. i forget what else. US not only country to do this, i know germany did it too

regarding hte first point, you dont do this as much and now practice a form of junk economics which you used to export to keep other countries poor

regarding italian coops we do know how well theyre doing because its measured and so obviously when you take out the capitalist middle man and turn workers into owners, theyre going to have better economic performance.

btw, regarding your quote "taking from those who produce and redistribute it" what do you think capitalism is? exactly that and a system of poor distribution
 
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