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UnionStrong

Sorry, but I don’t care anymore.
the point is why is it not okay for cuba to point weapons at america, but nato to point weapons at russia?

and im not sure about what u said either. probably a lot of corruption. thats why nato expanded in teh first place after all
NATO doesn’t point weapons at anyone fool. It’s a defensive alliance. SMH
 

vantexan

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i forget which countries ive posted them here.

how many times has russia been invaded from its west last 200 years? 3x?

what does lawrence wilkerson say about NATO?
Ottoman Empire, France, Germany. But none were NATO. And as far as NATO "aggression" is concerned, NATO bombed Serbia in the 90's to stop the genocide in Kosovo.
 

rickyb

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putin - war criminal killed thousands
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vantexan

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there was a few other countries NATO was involved with outside of EU
Name them. When the U.S. went into Iraq and Afghanistan there were NATO members who sent troops too because an attack on one member is an attack on all members. But it was a "coalition of the willing" because the terrorists who attacked us on 9/11 were part of a terror group, not representing a particular country even though most were Saudis. Even so one could make the argument that it was an excuse to remove Saddam Hussein going into Iraq.
 

rickyb

Well-Known Member
Name them. When the U.S. went into Iraq and Afghanistan there were NATO members who sent troops too because an attack on one member is an attack on all members. But it was a "coalition of the willing" because the terrorists who attacked us on 9/11 were part of a terror group, not representing a particular country even though most were Saudis. Even so one could make the argument that it was an excuse to remove Saddam Hussein going into Iraq.
i listed them off here before i forget there was like 4 or 5 countries
 

rickyb

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Which war did Trump get us into? Where did Clinton kill thousands?
you can probably look up clinton war crimes search my favorite names and find out. clinton was before my time. every US president since wwII is a war criminal. its not some kind of mystery, u have a huge war budget.
 

rickyb

Well-Known Member
Name them. When the U.S. went into Iraq and Afghanistan there were NATO members who sent troops too because an attack on one member is an attack on all members. But it was a "coalition of the willing" because the terrorists who attacked us on 9/11 were part of a terror group, not representing a particular country even though most were Saudis. Even so one could make the argument that it was an excuse to remove Saddam Hussein going into Iraq.
Noam Chomsky on role of NATO after the Cold War:

In 1990 [there was] no more Soviet Union. What happened? Well first of all, what happened to NATO? NATO was established to protect Western Europe against the Russian hordes, theoretically. No more Russian Hordes, what happened to NATO? Was is dissolved? No, it was expanded. It expanded to the East, now right to the Russian Borders. There’s a threat – even a threat of global war – because of [what is happening in] Ukraine. Because the mission of NATO was formally changed to protect the international energy system: sea lanes and pipelines. So it’s a global system, and also a global intervention force, run by the United States, which tells you what it always was, and tells you something about anti-communism as a propaganda device.

 

vantexan

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you can probably look up clinton war crimes search my favorite names and find out. clinton was before my time. every US president since wwII is a war criminal. its not some kind of mystery, u have a huge war budget.
We can have a trillion dollar budget but if a president didn't get us into a war how is he a war criminal? And the only war I recall Clinton getting us into was the very brief bombing of Serbia to stop the genocide in Kosovo.
 
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