THE TRUMP 2024 THREAD
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Interesting. Let's see what the voters Biden is trying to retain are up to:
Darmark7
Retired 2020. Not my Problem Anymore!
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Which election was this?New York City union workers voting 3 to 1 for Trump. Read that again. New York + Union. WOW. Someone needs to tell these people how everyone is embarrassed of Trump and how no one is going to vote for a criminal. What’s wrong with these people.
Darmark7
Retired 2020. Not my Problem Anymore!
The upcoming election in November. The Union leader said support for Trump is 3 to 1 for Trump. I’m surprised that Union people would tell him even if they were planning to vote for Trump. Click on the link below and read for the details.
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NYC union leader says members support Trump over Biden 3-to-1: 'I see a wave coming'
New York union leader Bob Bartels explained why as a lifelong Democrat he plans to vote for Trump in November and why the blue-collar vote could shift in favor of the former president.
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HarryWarden
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Conservatives and voting against their self interests, a classic comboThe upcoming election in November. The Union leader said support for Trump is 3 to 1 for Trump. I’m surprised that Union people would tell him even if they were planning to vote for Trump. Click on the link below and read for the details.
Link
NYC union leader says members support Trump over Biden 3-to-1: 'I see a wave coming'
New York union leader Bob Bartels explained why as a lifelong Democrat he plans to vote for Trump in November and why the blue-collar vote could shift in favor of the former president.www.foxnews.com
HarryWarden
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Today the surpreme court is hearing oral arguments on whether the president should have presidential immunity, and be above the law, which trump is arguing for.
What is everyone’s opinion on this?
What is everyone’s opinion on this?
Thebrownblob
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I think it’s pretty clear presidents definitely have some level of immunity. Remember, they can write executive orders. Not a real law , but definitely self-serving. Without immunity. I think every living president would be getting sued from all kinds of places. I think the Supreme Court gives Trump a partial win and kicks the rest of the can down the road because they don’t want to make a decision.
Darmark7
Retired 2020. Not my Problem Anymore!
I thought presidents have always had presidential immunity. So why is it a problem now?
HarryWarden
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If presidents had immunity, then why would Nixon have resigned?
Disappointed the first two comments are in favor of this, but not surprised
I’m extremely confident that if it was Biden arguing for presidential immunity, everyone would be against it. And rightfully so
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Thebrownblob
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In favor of what? Nixon resigning really didn’t mean anything. And I hope beyond all hope that the Supreme Court says Presidents do not have immunity that way Barack Obama can be tried as a criminal for his murderous drone program.
How Obama’s Drones Rulebook Enabled Trump
In Trump’s New Drone Strike Policy: What’s Any Different? Why It Matters, Luke Hartig astutely flags some – but not all – of the key dangers in the Trump administration’s reported plan to rescind many, if not most, rules for US lethal operations against terrorism suspects outside conventional...
Even American citizens with no trial.
Obama Killed a 16-Year-Old American in Yemen. Trump Just Killed His 8-Year-Old Sister.
The war on terror framework continues to savage the world’s poorest civilians.
theintercept.com
US cited controversial law in decision to kill American citizen by drone
Court documents reveal Obama administration cited law blessing global war against al-Qaida in killing of Anwar al-Awlaki
You asked me what I thought would happen. I told you I don’t think the Supreme Court has any desire to say Presidents don’t have immunity. Remember the thing you think you want, you don’t want. Dregs Up to a lot of trouble for presidents past and present.
Just beat him at the ballot box.
HarryWarden
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Why wouldn’t I want past presidents tried and prosecuted if they were proven to have broken the law?In favor of what? Nixon resigning really didn’t mean anything. And I hope beyond all hope that the Supreme Court says Presidents do not have immunity that way Barack Obama can be tried as a criminal for his murderous drone program.
How Obama’s Drones Rulebook Enabled Trump
In Trump’s New Drone Strike Policy: What’s Any Different? Why It Matters, Luke Hartig astutely flags some – but not all – of the key dangers in the Trump administration’s reported plan to rescind many, if not most, rules for US lethal operations against terrorism suspects outside conventional...www.hrw.org
Even American citizens with no trial.
Obama Killed a 16-Year-Old American in Yemen. Trump Just Killed His 8-Year-Old Sister.
The war on terror framework continues to savage the world’s poorest civilians.
US cited controversial law in decision to kill American citizen by drone
Court documents reveal Obama administration cited law blessing global war against al-Qaida in killing of Anwar al-Awlakiwww.theguardian.com
You asked me what I thought would happen. I told you I don’t think the Supreme Court has any desire to say Presidents don’t have immunity. Remember the thing you think you want, you don’t want. Dregs Up to a lot of trouble for presidents past and present.
Just beat him at the ballot box.
Thebrownblob
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Because you’re naïve and don’t understand all the decisions presidents have to make that could make them have nothing but lawsuits and criminal trials for the rest of their life. Again presidents can write executive orders and even pardon themselves completely. Presidents and to some degree politicians are in a club that you’re not in.
HarryWarden
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And you want that? Presidents are not kings. If they don’t want the responsibility they should ky take the job. Executive orders are not illegal I don’t know why you keep bringing that up. Neither are drones or bombs. But it’s quite alarming you think presidents should be above the law because it might make their job more difficult from stress of lawsuits, we might as well just let them do whatever they want, because I’m the naive one
Also ironic you saying “beat him in the ballot box” when that’s what the case is over. Trump claiming the election was rigged and trying to over turn it, illegally.
Thebrownblob
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My friend, you’re confusing things because you want to argue with me you asked me what I thought and I’ve given you the reasons and I told you why. if it at any point in time you thought I thought it was fair your mistaken, but it is what it is. This is what I believe the Supreme Court will do. They have no desire to make a ruling like you want.
HarryWarden
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I guess we’ll see. And I’m arguing because you said I’m naive for believing the president should not be above the law. I guess we’ll see though. Should be a fun time in office for Biden though if it rules he has immunity
Thebrownblob
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I still think you’re misunderstanding me. I think you’re naïve because you believe the Supreme Court will rule the way you think you “want” them to. I explained to you why I don’t think they will and yes, we will see. Again, I was only answering your question with my opinion.
HarryWarden
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Please show me where I said what I think the Supreme Court will do
Thebrownblob
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Show me where I said that what I told you I “think” they will do is what I hope they do? Which is what you basically accuse me of. You asked a question and then proceeded to say you’re disappointed with my answer lol. It was my opinion and I gave you some pretty good reason I believe that. There’s a pretty good chance we both want the same thing just for different reasons so I’m not even sure why you’re arguing with me. I just don’t think that will happen.
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