THE TRUMP 2024 THREAD

vantexan

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The fact that I’m expected to believe that Americans, who are getting hammered by inflation brought on by a war on petroleum, would re-elect the idiots that caused it says it all. Wake up, they won’t give up power without bloodshed now.
Now, now, the Blob will accuse you of loving war and all that.
 

Thebrownblob

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Now, now, the Blob will accuse you of loving war and all that.
Nope he said pretty much with the blobs been saying all along. You however, have said the opposite. War is necessary? The wars we’ve been in recently not so much, especially the one we’re funding right now.
 

vantexan

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Whatever you’re doing do the opposite because it hasn’t worked for 40 years. That’s why we are where we are now. Just one more time let’s go to the polls it’ll be this time everything will change.😂
That's been the American way for more than 230 years. Please tell us specifically what you you would do? Electing Trump got Roe v. Wade abolished. Please show us how elections never change anything?
 

vantexan

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Nope he said pretty much with the blobs been saying all along. You however, have said the opposite. War is necessary? The wars we’ve been in recently not so much, especially the one we’re funding right now.
You're for bloodshed? Why is it you're good with that here but think the Ukrainians will all get murdered if they defend their homeland?
 

Thebrownblob

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That's been the American way for more than 230 years. Please tell us specifically what you you would do? Electing Trump got Roe v. Wade abolished. Please show us how elections never change anything?
Did I say never? Or did I say now? Go to the polls one more time we’re going to turn this thing around did you realize they’re laughing at you?
 

Thebrownblob

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You're for bloodshed? Why is it you're good with that here but think the Ukrainians will all get murdered if they defend their homeland?
I’m not for it, but what you’re doing will cause it, as we move further and further into elections that are questionable people will lose hope while people like you continue to say hey just go vote again. And Ukraine wants to defend their homeland. Let them do it. It does not involve us emptying our coffers and depleting our arsenal.
 

vantexan

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Did I say never? Or did I say now? Go to the polls one more time we’re going to turn this thing around did you realize they’re laughing at you?
Let them laugh! Everyone with any sense knows that they're all vying for access to all the money that flows through Washington. Most probably to enrich themselves, some for the power controlling that money gives them. Or both. There are some decent fellows there. What concerns me is slowing down the excesses, the tearing of the social fabric. Protecting the future for following generations. Not with pie in the sky theories but solid economies that give them a decent life. Anyone who thinks that both parties are really the same aren't paying attention. It's intellectually lazy to say so. But there are certainly people within my party who are more interested in lining their pockets than helping the average person have a better life.
 

Thebrownblob

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Let them laugh! Everyone with any sense knows that they're all vying for access to all the money that flows through Washington. Most probably to enrich themselves, some for the power controlling that money gives them. Or both. There are some decent fellows there. What concerns me is slowing down the excesses, the tearing of the social fabric. Protecting the future for following generations. Not with pie in the sky theories but solid economies that give them a decent life. Anyone who thinks that both parties are really the same aren't paying attention. It's intellectually lazy to say so. But there are certainly people within my party who are more interested in lining their pockets than helping the average person have a better life.
We need to move away from Washington politics, being the most important thing and move towards states rights. Washington is a cesspool and always will be. Much easier to control things at the state level.
 

vantexan

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I’m not for it, but what you’re doing will cause it, as we move further and further into elections that are questionable people will lose hope while people like you continue to say hey just go vote again. And Ukraine wants to defend their homeland. Let them do it. It does not involve us emptying our coffers and depleting our arsenal.
There's more to voting than just showing up on election day. If you want true chaos just burn it all down. Because taking up arms to force your view on others will definitely do that. If people are in despair now think what they be in when we tear the country apart. People really should visit developing countries to understand how good we have it here. Even if you have to work two jobs to get by you have it better. The single biggest problem as I see it now is we've had people working behind the scenes to indoctrinate their way of thinking into kids and young adults minds. So we have a very polarized society now. Two major groups very much at odds with how things are done and minor groups urging the total destruction of everything. Be careful what you wish for. I am a conservative. I want to conserve the Constitution. That means live and let live to some extent. Not force my views on others but also not allowing what I disagree with forced on me. But there are probably at least 150 million people in this country whose views are polar opposite of yours. What would you do, kill them all? Impose a police state? What can we do beyond having the peaceful transfer of power through elections that will insure you get what you want?
 

Thebrownblob

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There's more to voting than just showing up on election day. If you want true chaos just burn it all down. Because taking up arms to force your view on others will definitely do that. If people are in despair now think what they be in when we tear the country apart. People really should visit developing countries to understand how good we have it here. Even if you have to work two jobs to get by you have it better. The single biggest problem as I see it now is we've had people working behind the scenes to indoctrinate their way of thinking into kids and young adults minds. So we have a very polarized society now. Two major groups very much at odds with how things are done and minor groups urging the total destruction of everything. Be careful what you wish for. I am a conservative. I want to conserve the Constitution. That means live and let live to some extent. Not force my views on others but also not allowing what I disagree with forced on me. But there are probably at least 150 million people in this country whose views are polar opposite of yours. What would you do, kill them all? Impose a police state? What can we do beyond having the peaceful transfer of power through elections that will insure you get what you want?
Do you mean like suspending the constitution and locking people down closing churches and keeping liquor stores open? Shutting small businesses down while all the big businesses are called essential? arresting people for giving hair cuts. Arresting mothers for going with children to the park? Like that? And now a whole generation of youth who feel disconnected and anxious? Your continued idea that we can just continue on doing what we’re doing is not working. It will continue to get worse if people believe what you’re telling them, they will be left disenchanted. Your idea that we need to burn it down completely just shows you have to turn the argument upside down to make yourself look like you have an idea of what you’re talking about. You were the only one who said burn it down.

 

UnionStrong

Sorry, but I don’t care anymore.
Do you mean like suspending the constitution and locking people down closing churches and keeping liquor stores open? Shutting small businesses down while all the big businesses are called essential? arresting people for giving hair cuts. Arresting mothers for going with children to the park? Like that? And now a whole generation of youth who feel disconnected and anxious? Your continued idea that we can just continue on doing what we’re doing is not working. It will continue to get worse if people believe what you’re telling them, they will be left disenchanted. Your idea that we need to burn it down completely just shows you have to turn the argument upside down to make yourself look like you have an idea of what you’re talking about. You were the only one who said burn it down.

The democrats are talking about lowering the voting age to 16. Yeah, elections are legit. Lol
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
Do you mean like suspending the constitution and locking people down closing churches and keeping liquor stores open? Shutting small businesses down while all the big businesses are called essential? arresting people for giving hair cuts. Arresting mothers for going with children to the park? Like that? And now a whole generation of youth who feel disconnected and anxious? Your continued idea that we can just continue on doing what we’re doing is not working. It will continue to get worse if people believe what you’re telling them, they will be left disenchanted. Your idea that we need to burn it down completely just shows you have to turn the argument upside down to make yourself look like you have an idea of what you’re talking about. You were the only one who said burn it down.

And where we VOTED for Republican governors those issues were quickly resolved.

How do you get what you want since you think our country as it exists right now is worthy of destruction? The pandemic is over. Those things aren't happening now. But you thing everything must change to your liking. So how does that happen? A lot of people disagree with your views. Do you impose a police state on them?
 

vantexan

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And if Trump had never run for president this would have never happened. I wonder how many executives in other companies receive such perks but are never charged with tax evasion? If it's illegal so be it but it's very much like lobbyists acting on behalf of foreign governments but never register as foreign agents. They're never charged unless it's politically expedient to do so.
 

oldngray

nowhere special
And if Trump had never run for president this would have never happened. I wonder how many executives in other companies receive such perks but are never charged with tax evasion? If it's illegal so be it but it's very much like lobbyists acting on behalf of foreign governments but never register as foreign agents. They're never charged unless it's politically expedient to do so.
A couple of execs had pled guilty but linking it to the organization was really shaky. Still nothing against Trump or any of his family despite the prosecution trying to imply it existed.
 

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