THE TRUMP 2024 THREAD

bacha29

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People would have sold those books writing anything about jfk regardless of what happened. He was one of the most loved presidents of our time. And for good reason, he was pro america. Any wonder the deep state had him killed.
People who don't bother to try to keep abreast of events before and after the JFK and MLK assassinations right away claim that the so called "Deep State" had them killed for the simple reason that it well gives them a sense of first hand knowledge of what happened.

Given your so called "Deep State" conspiracy claim it would then appear that you had never even heard of the names Norman Mailer and Gerald Posner prior to me mentioning them because if you did you wouldn't have fallen back onto the personal comfort found in your "Deep State" claim.
 

Jkloc420

Do you need an air compressor or tire gauge
And just exactly WHO is that PARTY now you have gone from "regime" to "party".
And JFK? A lot of people made a lot of money selling JFK books and movie rights. Including Norman Mailer and if you've been observant of what's going on you would know the game old Norm played.

Thank God, Gerald Posner finally put the JFK and MLK assassinations to bed years ago and that's why we haven't heard anything more about them since.
Is there something wrong with, I'm not going to keep repeating myself
 

bacha29

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Why? That’s the question ace? Why not for Hillary?
Hillary Clinton was never president. Trump was and the basis of the FBI complaint upon which the FBI based it's request for a warrant was that Trump was in violation of the Presidential Records Act. The National Archives politely asked Trump to return the classified information that under the PRA he was not entitled to retain. He refused. He then was issued a subpoena to turn them over and he refused.....Trump freely chose to ignore long standing finished law..

Didn't Fox News tell you about the events leading up to the raid?
 

bacha29

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Is there something wrong with, I'm not going to keep repeating myself
Every single event discussed here you blame it on the EVIDENCE FREE existence of a so called "Deep State" and the conspiracies that you attribute to it.
Now given that you have yet to prove it's existence or identify a single individual belonging to it or provide any proof that they belong to it then it exists nowhere except in your own mind.
 

Non liberal

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Every single event discussed here you blame it on the EVIDENCE FREE existence of a so called "Deep State" and the conspiracies that you attribute to it.
Now given that you have yet to prove its existence or identify a single individual belonging to it or provide any proof that they belong to it then it exists nowhere except in your own mind.
Ok, so answer just one question for me? Why are all the msm organizations biased to one political party? Maybe two questions, the other being; how do these organizations all hire people who have the same anti party stance? I want to know so I can legally hire all conservatives when I start a business.
 

Non liberal

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Hillary Clinton was never president. Trump was and the basis of the FBI complaint upon which the FBI based it's request for a warrant was that Trump was in violation of the Presidential Records Act. The National Archives politely asked Trump to return the classified information that under the PRA he was not entitled to retain. He refused. He then was issued a subpoena to turn them over and he refused.....Trump freely chose to ignore long standing finished law..

Didn't Fox News tell you about the events leading up to the raid?
Why does that matter? She committed the same crime if not a bigger crime by taking the risk her personal computer wouldn’t get hacked and the info leaked into the wrong hands. And all political leaders do what trump did! Biden is case in point! What did they try and do to him? Nothing!
 

Jkloc420

Do you need an air compressor or tire gauge
Every single event discussed here you blame it on the EVIDENCE FREE existence of a so called "Deep State" and the conspiracies that you attribute to it.
Now given that you have yet to prove it's existence or identify a single individual belonging to it or provide any proof that they belong to it then it exists nowhere except in your own mind.
R u American
 

bacha29

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Why does that matter? She committed the same crime if not a bigger crime by taking the risk her personal computer wouldn’t get hacked and the info leaked into the wrong hands. And all political leaders do what trump did! Biden is case in point! What did they try and do to him? Nothing!
Here's the difference. When classified documents were found at Biden's personal residence he was notified. He then immediately notified the DOJ and the National Archives to arrange for their recovery.

He did exactly what long standing protocols and finished law required. If Trump had simply done the same thing there would have been no need to go to Mar A Logo with a warrant. Another example of Trump choosing to defy long established law then play the victim card.
 

Non liberal

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Here's the difference. When classified documents were found at Biden's personal residence he was notified. He then immediately notified the DOJ and the National Archives to arrange for their recovery.

He did exactly what long standing protocols and finished law required. If Trump had simply done the same thing there would have been no need to go to Mar A Logo with a warrant. Another example of Trump choosing to defy long established law then play the victim card.
Lol, that’s crap and you know it! Why didn’t he tell them he had them in the first place? Of course he handed them over. It was staged to happen right after trumps to highlight the “disparities between the two. Funny how Biden’s documents were from 2008, and they choose trump first who left office last. How about Hillary’s e-mails? Why did comey recommend not to investigate any further? Yet they investigate the pee pee hoax on trump? Lol
 

Thebrownblob

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Here's the difference. When classified documents were found at Biden's personal residence he was notified. He then immediately notified the DOJ and the National Archives to arrange for their recovery.

He did exactly what long standing protocols and finished law required. If Trump had simply done the same thing there would have been no need to go to Mar A Logo with a warrant. Another example of Trump choosing to defy long established law then play the victim card.
 

bacha29

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Notice something. The focus of the article was about classified documents. It never said that Biden did NOT do what the law required him to do when he was notified of the documents existence.

That's the difference here. The law sets forth simple and easy steps to follow when events of this nature occur. And if Trump had simply done the same thing. In fact reports say that the National Archives sent someone to Mar-A-Logo and politely explained to Trump what the issue was and asked him to turn over the documents. He refused.

If he had simply followed the law hunted up the documents and turned them over we wouldn't be talking about a matter because it never happened.
 

Thebrownblob

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Notice something. The focus of the article was about classified documents. It never said that Biden did NOT do what the law required him to do when he was notified of the documents existence.

That's the difference here. The law sets forth simple and easy steps to follow when events of this nature occur. And if Trump had simply done the same thing. In fact reports say that the National Archives sent someone to Mar-A-Logo and politely explained to Trump what the issue was and asked him to turn over the documents. He refused.

If he had simply followed the law hunted up the documents and turned them over we wouldn't be talking about a matter because it never happened.
Have you ever had a family member in the government? Do you know what they do to them when they have documents they’re not supposed to have accidentally or not?
 

Non liberal

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Notice something. The focus of the article was about classified documents. It never said that Biden did NOT do what the law required him to do when he was notified of the documents existence.

That's the difference here. The law sets forth simple and easy steps to follow when events of this nature occur. And if Trump had simply done the same thing. In fact reports say that the National Archives sent someone to Mar-A-Logo and politely explained to Trump what the issue was and asked him to turn over the documents. He refused.

If he had simply followed the law hunted up the documents and turned them over we wouldn't be talking about a matter because it never happened.
And you honestly believe he didn’t know? In his own words, “how could you not know?”
 

bacha29

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R u American
Yes I am and it would appear that you have no knowledge regarding how the term "Deep State" originated.
Look this is your job to research matters such as this...not mine but it looks like I'm going to have to do it for you.

There was once this dedicated Republican staffer. His name was Mike Lofgren He wasn't a Trumper, MAGA or Tea Partyer Just a dedicated public servant and traditional Republican.

In 2016 he wrote a book entitled "Anatomy Of The Deep State". It is a book about the near impossibility of moving groundbreaking legislation and policy initiatives due to the deep entrenchment by both parties. A case of digging in deep and holding the party's political ground at all costs. This is real the deep state Mr. Lofgren was describing.

Today he deeply resents efforts by members of his own party primarily MAGA's and Trumpers to take the term "Deep State" and use it to create an imaginary political Boogyman and shadow government and try to install it in the minds of impressionable people in an effort to convince them that they are the only ones who can save the nation from an imaginary threat they created.

And so here lies the origins of the term "Deep State" and how it was used in a manner for which it's author never intended.
 

Jkloc420

Do you need an air compressor or tire gauge
Yes I am and it would appear that you have no knowledge regarding how the term "Deep State" originated.
Look this is your job to research matters such as this...not mine but it looks like I'm going to have to do it for you.

There was once this dedicated Republican staffer. His name was Mike Lofgren He wasn't a Trumper, MAGA or Tea Partyer Just a dedicated public servant and traditional Republican.

In 2016 he wrote a book entitled "Anatomy Of The Deep State". It is a book about the near impossibility of moving groundbreaking legislation and policy initiatives due to the deep entrenchment by both parties. A case of digging in deep and holding the party's political ground at all costs. This is real the deep state Mr. Lofgren was describing.

Today he deeply resents efforts by members of his own party primarily MAGA's and Trumpers to take the term "Deep State" and use it to create an imaginary political Boogyman and shadow government and try to install it in the minds of impressionable people in an effort to convince them that they are the only ones who can save the nation from an imaginary threat they created.

And so here lies the origins of the term "Deep State" and how it was used in a manner for which it's author never intended.
Guy if you believe Oswald worked alone or had no connection to the Cia then you don't know anything
 

bacha29

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And you honestly believe he didn’t know? In his own words, “how could you not know?”
"What did the president know and when did he know it"....Howard Baker. In both cases the only facts that will likely to be publicly disclosed is that Trump made it easy for Biden. Biden chose to immediately follow the requirements of the law . Trump out of his own free will and volition chose to defy the very same law Biden calmly complied with.

Trump on the other hand needlessly created for himself a political feces storm (can't use the S word here). His classified documents would be back in the National Archives where they belong and Trump would today be controlling the political narrative regarding the matter. Instead he now has a special prosecutor breathing down his neck.....needlessly.
 

Non liberal

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Yes I am and it would appear that you have no knowledge regarding how the term "Deep State" originated.
Look this is your job to research matters such as this...not mine but it looks like I'm going to have to do it for you.

There was once this dedicated Republican staffer. His name was Mike Lofgren He wasn't a Trumper, MAGA or Tea Partyer Just a dedicated public servant and traditional Republican.

In 2016 he wrote a book entitled "Anatomy Of The Deep State". It is a book about the near impossibility of moving groundbreaking legislation and policy initiatives due to the deep entrenchment by both parties. A case of digging in deep and holding the party's political ground at all costs. This is real the deep state Mr. Lofgren was describing.

Today he deeply resents efforts by members of his own party primarily MAGA's and Trumpers to take the term "Deep State" and use it to create an imaginary political Boogyman and shadow government and try to install it in the minds of impressionable people in an effort to convince them that they are the only ones who can save the nation from an imaginary threat they created.

And so here lies the origins of the term "Deep State" and how it was used in a manner for which its author never intended.
Actually honest hard working people got tired of being :censored2:ed over by our politicians always putting us last and gauging us with higher taxes all the while giving all of our milk and honey to every other country and illegal immigrant that jumps the border! That term was coined because we cannot elect anyone anymore that wants to let us keep more of our own money! Or someone who doesn’t want to try and take our rights away. That’s why we elected trump in the first place.
 

bacha29

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Guy if you believe Oswald worked alone or had no connection to the Cia then you don't know anything
I don't know where you obtained your corroborated FACTS that the CIA was directly or indirectly involved in the JFK assassination but it would appear that you never READ: "Oswald's Tale" by Norman Mailer and "Case Closed. The Lee Harvey Oswald and the Assassination of JFK 1963 by Gerald Posner.

These two books are widely credited for being responsible for the destruction of the JFK conspiracy industry.
Their findings and reporting have withstood the test of time and no one has been able to disprove them .
Perhaps you might be the first person to achieve that noble feat.
 
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