THE TRUMP 2024 THREAD

[PT Car Washer]

Well like I’ve said many times. My 401k went up 20% on trumps watch, gas was $1.80 gal. Groceries were cheap, everything else was cheaper under trump, my electric bill went from $200/mo. Under trump to $400/mo. Under Biden. Etc, etc. The results speak for themselves.

Do you really believe either trump or President Biden has that much affect on the economy?

 

[Non liberal]

What has Trump done for the working class?

Increased our 401k by 20% at least. Had gas down to $1.80 gal. Groceries were cheaper. Electric bill was $200/mo. Under trump, now it is $400/mo. Had as much overtime as I wanted at work, because we were actually busy. Etc. etc. you name the item, and it was cheaper under trump.

 

[UnionStrong]

Increased our 401k by 20% at least. Had gas down to $1.80 gal. Groceries were cheaper. Electric bill was $200/mo. Under trump, now it is $400/mo. Had as much overtime as I wanted at work, because we were actually busy. Etc. etc. you name the item, and it was cheaper under trump.

No accounting for TDS

 

[Non liberal]

Do you really believe either trump or President Biden has that much affect on the economy?

Absolutely. I’m being dead serious here. Just the act of electing a democrat to the presidency makes the price of gas increase. That alone will destroy the economy because it has such a sizable effect on the working class. You can’t threaten the end of an industry and not expect the ceos of said industry to not jack the prices up.

 

[UnionStrong]

Absolutely. I’m being dead serious here. Just the act of electing a democrat to the presidency makes the price of gas increase. That alone will destroy the economy because it has such a sizable effect on the working class. You can’t threaten the end of an industry and not expect the ceos of said industry to not jack the prices up.

With the Saudi cut in oil production, gas will spike again. Final nail in the coffin for our economy. Inflation is here to stay now.

 

[Up In Smoke]

Well like I’ve said many times. My 401k went up 20% on trumps watch, gas was $1.80 gal. Groceries were cheap, everything else was cheaper under trump, my electric bill went from $200/mo. Under trump to $400/mo. Under Biden. Etc, etc. The results speak for themselves.

Wasn't all rosy. The US lost more than 6 million jobs, GDP growth was the weakest in nearly a century, debt/GDP grew 20%, the dollar shrunk to record levels, trade deficit went to record levels and wages growth was weak. Lumber, natural gas and heating oil futures are back to 2019 levels, but the cost to produce has risen because of the recent wage inflation.

 

[UnionStrong]

Wasn't all rosy. The US lost more than 6 million jobs, GDP growth was the weakest in nearly a century, debt/GDP grew 20%, the dollar shrunk to record levels, trade deficit went to record levels and wages growth was weak. Lumber, natural gas and heating oil futures are back to 2019 levels, but the cost to produce has risen because of the recent wage inflation.

So we’re really much better off now.

 

[Non liberal]

With the Saudi cut in oil production, gas will spike again. Final nail in the coffin for our economy. Inflation is here to stay now.

All by design

 

[Up In Smoke]

So we’re really much better off now.

The Fed is attempting to correct the massive money dump. They tried in 2018, but flinched. The cutting off of cheap money is going to hurt.

 

[Non liberal]

Wasn't all rosy. The US lost more than 6 million jobs, GDP growth was the weakest in nearly a century, debt/GDP grew 20%, the dollar shrunk to record levels, trade deficit went to record levels and wages growth was weak. Lumber, natural gas and heating oil futures are back to 2019 levels, but the cost to produce has risen because of the recent wage inflation.

Before covid, none of what you just said is remotely true. The world governments unleashed covid on is to get rid of trump. GDP was rising under trump. It may not have Been high, but is was rising. Once covid hit, everything went to pot. You can’t blame what happened after covid on trump. Biden and the dems kept giving us money, which caused the inflation. Trump gave us a big infuse of cash in the beginning but then stopped because he knew what would happen, even though everyone in government wanted him to keep giving us cash. Because they all knew the damage it would do to the economy. No, all that stuff you mentioned happened after covid, out of his control.

 

[Non liberal]

The Fed is attempting to correct the massive money dump. They tried in 2018, but flinched. The cutting off of cheap money is going to hurt.

You can correct it. Damage is done. Time is the only thing that can fix this

 

[Yolo]

Save Us Trump!

 

[Non liberal]

Save Us Trump!

All anyone has to do is to stop the war on fossil fuels and get out of the way. The rest will take care of itself

 

[vantexan]

Save Us Trump!

Stephen Colbert called. He wants his act back.

 

[vantexan]

All anyone has to do is to stop the war on fossil fuels and get out of the way. The rest will take care of itself

I think because of the war on fossil fuels and numerous other bad decisions it won't take care of itself until there's a massive correction and then we can get on with things. That correction could take years.

 

[bacha29]

Sorry you had to go through that. If my father follows the same path as his family he'll be at home until he enters hospice care. Not seeing too many cognitive issues now but he does have the typical elderly memory issues of one in his 80's. He drives everywhere, attends church, goes to the doctor, has lunch with my sister twice a week and eats out with old friends a couple times a month. He took his inheritance from my grandfather and tripled it to $330k in his 60's rehabbing houses. Quit that in 2008. My primary job is just being around to listen to him. Talks a lot about the old days. Beyond that I do light housekeeping and run and fetch things from the store. I may go to Argentina next year depending on his health. There's literally nothing I do that he can't do for himself other than just being here for him.

Don't be too trusting of hospice care. In our mother's final days. She was in a hospital at the time before her final trip back to the nursing home hospice called up and talked to my brother about the services it offered. It went like this:

Hospice: "We can come in and fluff her pillow and check on her condition"
Brother " Isn't that what CNA 's and social workers do?
Hospice: "We can read bible verses to her"
Brother: "She's stone deaf".

And in a snide arrogant voice hospice employee's final words before she angerly hung up were: "Oh well, the infection is going to kill her anyway".

It made it obvious that all they were looking for was billings which meant that for all intents and purposes they were looking to get paid for doing....nothing.

So don't confuse home health nurses with hospice.

 

[bacha29]

Absolutely. I’m being dead serious here. Just the act of electing a democrat to the presidency makes the price of gas increase. That alone will destroy the economy because it has such a sizable effect on the working class. You can’t threaten the end of an industry and not expect the ceos of said industry to not jack the prices up.

You think so? Did you look at today's news out of Alaska? The Biden administration APPROVED the Willow oil project in Alaska but Mike Dunleavy the REPUBLICAN governor of Alaska has put a hold on the project until settlements can be reached regarding environmental issues being brought up by Alaskan residents....And what's this you're saying about Democrats being solely responsible for gas price increases?

Oh, and by the way Governor Dunleavy has signed into law a bill that will fast track Alaska residents application for SNAP benefits. being that you're the only person who works I bet that this news just molested your mind.

 

[Wally]

Blue states have no problem not releasing slew of illegal's. Very upset if Florida doesn't release one person.

 

[bacha29]

Do you really believe either trump or President Biden has that much affect on the economy?

I guess that there are still people who believe that the president runs the country. The president doesn't run the country. So who does run this country and is the one most influential persons when it comes to world geopolitical events?.....

The Chairman Of The Federal Reserve Board....When he/she steps up to the microphone the entire global economy stops dead in it's tracks.... The president simply nominates the person who will run the country.

 

[Non liberal]

You think so? Did you look at today's news out of Alaska? The Biden administration APPROVED the Willow oil project in Alaska but Mike Dunleavy the REPUBLICAN governor of Alaska has put a hold on the project until settlements can be reached regarding environmental issues being brought up by Alaskan residents....And what's this you're saying about Democrats being solely responsible for gas price increases?

Oh, and by the way Governor Dunleavy has signed into law a bill that will fast track Alaska residents application for SNAP benefits. being that you're the only person who works I bet that this news just molested your mind.

What are u arguing. It’s not up for debate. Electing democrats, because of their green energy fetishized, makes the price of oil go up. Whether that’s because oil execs don’t like them, or whatever reason, I don’t care why. It happens period. If the reason isn’t that they’re democrats, then that really makes Biden look bad and makes trump look like even more of a wizard for how low the price of fuel was. Either way, you lose! Good day sir!