THE TRUMP 2024 THREAD

DriveInDriѵeOut

Inordinately Right
Okay then tell me your defense of trump and why you are asking people if they believe him when it comes to him admitting his crimes.
It's simple.

They're on here saying that there's a tape of Trump saying he is holding a classified document and that's the nail in the coffin for this case, he admitted to the crime, it's over.

Then when I ask if they believe what Trump said about the document they say no only an idiot would believe him because he's a liar.

They can't have it both ways.
Either they think Trump is lying and he didn't have this classified document, or they're idiots who believe him. Just holding them to their own standards.
 

El Correcto

god is dead
It's simple.

They're on here saying that there's a tape of Trump saying he is holding a classified document and that's the nail in the coffin for this case, he admitted to the crime, it's over.

Then when I ask if they believe what Trump said about the document they say no only an idiot would believe him because he's a liar.

They can't have it both ways.
Either they think Trump is lying and he didn't have this classified document, or they're idiots who believe him. Just holding them to their own standards.
Yeah that’s what I said and you threw a hissy fit.
The difference between this and his lies is this statement has a mountain of evidence against him.
 

El Correcto

god is dead
So you believe what he said about the document?
I believe the mountain of classified documents he had will speak for themselves. I believe they nailed his ass or they would not be doing this.

I honestly don’t keep up with the story much but I do pay attention to the arguments of those that do. The politicians are crying that but but but hillary did it too! I also believed hillary should have been jailed. Then they start crying but but but Biden and his son!! I say jail them too.
Start locking all these stupid pricks up until we can get some decent leadership, start holding each other accountable like you’re supposed to do you :censored2:ing idiots.
 

El Correcto

god is dead
I despise the political commentators who are going on and on about this is Pandora’s box, both parties are actually about to start charging each other with crimes!
I say good and any idiot in the street protesting on the behalf of their dear leader is a sheep.
 

El Correcto

god is dead
You didn't answer the question.
Just like the leftists I was talking to.

You jumped into that conversation just to join them in dodging a simple question.

Ridiculous.
I don’t think this case will come down to one document. To be honest I’m skeptical that document will ever reappear, could be obstruction of Justice destroying it without evidence or could of been a lie.

But if you’re asking me if I believe Trump when he says he had and saw that document, yeah. I believe this government has plans to invade every country on the face of the earth. It isn’t out of the realm of possibility at all that Trump was briefed on this during his presidency that was in conflict with Iran, including killing one of their top generals.
 

DriveInDriѵeOut

Inordinately Right
I don’t think this case will come down to one document. To be honest I’m skeptical that document will ever reappear, could be obstruction of Justice destroying it without evidence or could of been a lie.

But if you’re asking me if I believe Trump when he says he had and saw that document, yeah. I believe this government has plans to invade every country on the face of the earth. It isn’t out of the realm of possibility at all that Trump was briefed on this during his presidency that was in conflict with Iran, including killing one of their top generals.
So you believe the deep state pushed to invade Iran, destabilize the middle east, and plunge us into another war. And Trump stopped them.

But that's not your concern.
You and the leftists are concerned that Trump might have had proof of it, and you're glad they're trying to put him in prison.
 

El Correcto

god is dead
So you believe the deep state pushed to invade Iran, destabilize the middle east, and plunge us into another war. And Trump stopped them.

But that's not your concern.
You and the leftists are concerned that Trump might have had proof of it, and you're glad they're trying to put him in prison.
Since you just gave me a very loaded opinion of your own, I’ll give you mine. This isn’t based on facts I know just like yours.

I think there was conflict between the United States and Iran during Trump’s presidency. They attacked an embassy and Trump killed one of their generals, which could have sparked off a war with them, especially if they decided to retaliate with terrorism on United military personal abroad or an actual strike on our base, they did shoot missiles over it after all.
In a situation like that yes the president should and probably was presented with the full scale this is how we destroy Iran if you decide that is what is needed to defend United States interest.
The president has pretty broad powers when it comes to reacting quickly to situations like a strike on our military bases or embassies.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
Since you just gave me a very loaded opinion of your own, I’ll give you mine. This isn’t based on facts I know just like yours.

I think there was conflict between the United States and Iran during Trump’s presidency. They attacked an embassy and Trump killed one of their generals, which could have sparked off a war with them, especially if they decided to retaliate with terrorism on United military personal abroad or an actual strike on our base, they did shoot missiles over it after all.
In a situation like that yes the president should and probably was presented with the full scale this is how we destroy Iran if you decide that is what is needed to defend United States interest.
The president has pretty broad powers when it comes to reacting quickly to situations like a strike on our military bases or embassies.
The general killed was behind the killing of American troops with the explosives he supplied for Iraqi IED's.
 

DriveInDriѵeOut

Inordinately Right
Since you just gave me a very loaded opinion of your own, I’ll give you mine. This isn’t based on facts I know just like yours.

I think there was conflict between the United States and Iran during Trump’s presidency. They attacked an embassy and Trump killed one of their generals, which could have sparked off a war with them, especially if they decided to retaliate with terrorism on United military personal abroad or an actual strike on our base, they did shoot missiles over it after all.
In a situation like that yes the president should and probably was presented with the full scale this is how we destroy Iran if you decide that is what is needed to defend United States interest.
The president has pretty broad powers when it comes to reacting quickly to situations like a strike on our military bases or embassies.
So you're not concerned the deep state pushed for invasion of Iran, and you want Trump to go to prison for having a document about it.

Okay carry on.
 

El Correcto

god is dead
So you're not concerned the deep state pushed for invasion of Iran, and you want Trump to go to prison for having a document about it.

Okay carry on.
I’m not concerned that this country has plans for invading another country and that those plans were probably presented to Trump during a conflict with that country.
Those plans should always be on the table and up for consideration when navigating foreign policy incidents like embassies being attacked or missiles flying over US bases.

I want politicians to start holding each other accountable for criminal behavior and I don’t care if that starts with Trump if he is guilty. There will be revenge from republicans and that will also be a good thing. There are a worrying amount of politicians who are openly violating laws that are there for a reason and it needs to stop.
 

El Correcto

god is dead
The tape says Milley was pushing to invade Iran.
I don’t believe everything Trump said and I don’t believe the narrative he pushed around it. I don’t even know if he really had the document because it hasn’t shown up apparently.
I also don’t believe the tape narrative coming from anonymous sources ran by propagandists like cnn and Ben Shapiro who have clear axes to grind with Trump, they don’t like the guy.

I also believe they got him this time. I really do and I don’t think the case hinges on this tape narrative.
 

El Correcto

god is dead
I think Trump is probably taking a lot of things out of context and embellishing his own greatness when it comes to preventing a war.
I don’t think war with Iran was a serious consideration unless they actually hit that US military base they were shooting over.
 
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