Thinking about leaving this bad place.

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What The Hawk?

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So you're ok with him giving his opinion on something but not me. Hmmm seems like you may also be a reason people hate forums in general.
Don't be an ass hat, that isn't what I said. You didn't give an opinion, you completely ignored what the OP said..you're being judgemental. YOU and people like you are the reason people hate forums. Don't even reply, unless you read the damn post.
 

Box Ox

Well-Known Member
He said while the job used to be decent, regardless of the money it's a horrible place to be anymore and he's glad he's about done.

Yeah it's not that it couldn't be a decent career for a time, it's just getting hard to be an entire career.

Yep. 30 year guys have even told me the job used to be "fun." Say there's no way they would've made it to retirement starting now. My whole center was re-looped this year and there's no such thing as an "easy" route now. Routes are cut to the bone year-round and 190 stops is a light day. Everybody looks forward to peak because at least helpers will be hopping on board.

The job sounds cool, and does have a novelty factor to it. For a while. But when you're doing it year-round, it's a whole different body/mind/life ballgame.
 

542thruNthru

Well-Known Member
Don't be an ass hat, that isn't what I said. You didn't give an opinion, you completely ignored what the OP said..you're being judgemental. YOU and people like you are the reason people hate forums. Don't even reply, unless you read the damn post.

Look I'm sorry if I upset you but you can keep pressing the disagree icon all you want.

Let me guess he gave his opinion on how bad UPS is. How it wasn't like he thought it would be. How miserable it is to work at UPS.

Great original post. I'm sorry I didn't treat it with the respect you feel it deserves. Please feel free to disagree with this post. The red x is just below.
 

Wally

BrownCafe Innovator & King of Puns
Hello all, I have been working for the ups company for two whole months now and I am thinking about leaving. I wanted to be a ups driver after having a career of delivering pizzas but after loading trucks for the last 60+ days I am second guessing if I want to become a driver for the next 25+ years. Here is what I learned in my 60 days as a preloader.

The drivers who come in are insanely depressed and worn out physically and mentally. I don't know how many drivers that I load for complain to dispatch because they were given an extra split or that their back hurts. These drivers complain that they have 200+ stops and pick ups. These people just seem like they hate their life but they have worked for the company for too damn long to think about leaving to start a new career. They feel that if they left now, all the years spent to be a driver would be a waste.

There is also another driver that I load for who works 10-12 hours a day and he just recently told me that he got a divorce and his wife gets the majority of the custody because he's never around to go to their softball games or back to school nights. He told me how depressing it is to leave his house in the dark to go to work and doesn't return home until after dark as well. He said its heart breaking to see families huddled around the living room watching a movie or eating dinner while he's delivering pointless Amazon packages at 8:30-9:00 PM.

The money made as a driver is great but I feel that a lot of drivers are trapped or complacent and stop counts are only going to rise in the future because it seems like management would rather pay 4 drivers 12 hours of work then pay 6 drivers 8 hours each.

It's depressing to me to see in the 60 days that I have been there so many people complaining that their knees are shot, that their backs ache, or that they think they tore something in the shoulder. I have seen a lot of people go on disability to get surgerys.

sorry for the rant, I just feel like you drivers go through a lot of crap and your home life suffers because of it due to the constant increases of stops and expectations and it doesn't seem to look any better in the future now that we are offering Saturday ground now. Yes the money is great but money doesn't buy happiness.

In addition, I know a lot of you hard workers are going to say things like "bye rookie, stupid millennial, or this guy doesn't get it" but I'm just reporting what I have seen as a preloader in my 60 days working at UPS and talking to some senior drivers. I respect all of you for what you do.
Trade school
 

Wally

BrownCafe Innovator & King of Puns
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What The Hawk?

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Look I'm sorry if I upset you but you can keep pressing the disagree icon all you want.

Let me guess he gave his opinion on how bad UPS is. How it wasn't like he thought it would be. How miserable it is to work at UPS.

Great original post. I'm sorry I didn't treat it with the respect you feel it deserves. Please feel free to disagree with this post. The red x is just below.
Read it. I'm not going to tell you. Don't reply to a post you didn't read. Plain and simple.

The ratings are there for a reason...so..deal with it.
 

542thruNthru

Well-Known Member
Read it. I'm not going to tell you. Don't reply to a post you didn't read. Plain and simple.

The ratings are there for a reason...so..deal with it.

Apparently you didn't read my post. No where did I ask you to explain his post to me or tell me about it.

Again I'm sorry if my opinions don't line up with yours. Please feel free to express yours as I have done. That's what makes forums so great and loved by people in general. ;)
 
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What The Hawk?

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Apparently you didn't read my post. No where did I ask you to explain his post to me or tell me about it.

Again I'm sorry if my opinions don't line up with yours. Please feel free to express yours as I have done. That's what makes forums so great and loved by people in general. ;)
You're one of those people...not even going to waste my time anymore.

Next time, read the post before replying or don't reply at all. Simple.
 

Tiereffinthree

Active Member
Hello all, I have been working for the ups company for two whole months now and I am thinking about leaving. I wanted to be a ups driver after having a career of delivering pizzas but after loading trucks for the last 60+ days I am second guessing if I want to become a driver for the next 25+ years. Here is what I learned in my 60 days as a preloader.

The drivers who come in are insanely depressed and worn out physically and mentally. I don't know how many drivers that I load for complain to dispatch because they were given an extra split or that their back hurts. These drivers complain that they have 200+ stops and pick ups. These people just seem like they hate their life but they have worked for the company for too damn long to think about leaving to start a new career. They feel that if they left now, all the years spent to be a driver would be a waste.

There is also another driver that I load for who works 10-12 hours a day and he just recently told me that he got a divorce and his wife gets the majority of the custody because he's never around to go to their softball games or back to school nights. He told me how depressing it is to leave his house in the dark to go to work and doesn't return home until after dark as well. He said its heart breaking to see families huddled around the living room watching a movie or eating dinner while he's delivering pointless Amazon packages at 8:30-9:00 PM.

The money made as a driver is great but I feel that a lot of drivers are trapped or complacent and stop counts are only going to rise in the future because it seems like management would rather pay 4 drivers 12 hours of work then pay 6 drivers 8 hours each.

It's depressing to me to see in the 60 days that I have been there so many people complaining that their knees are shot, that their backs ache, or that they think they tore something in the shoulder. I have seen a lot of people go on disability to get surgerys.

sorry for the rant, I just feel like you drivers go through a lot of crap and your home life suffers because of it due to the constant increases of stops and expectations and it doesn't seem to look any better in the future now that we are offering Saturday ground now. Yes the money is great but money doesn't buy happiness.

In addition, I know a lot of you hard workers are going to say things like "bye rookie, stupid millennial, or this guy doesn't get it" but I'm just reporting what I have seen as a preloader in my 60 days working at UPS and talking to some senior drivers. I respect all of you for what you do.


You pretty much have nailed it. The company sees the money drivers make as giving them the right to pretty much disregard drivers as people with need of family and personal time. If you have to quit or take time off for being hurt badly they just get a hard-on cause they can pay some other poor sap half the money as a new hire. I had to quit after only a couple years in that horrid mess. Thank god I fought for and achieved getting back as an inside worker.

If I were you, I wouldn't quit but maybe just know that you got an early chance to realize just how craptastic life as a driver is. No amount of money is worth getting violated six ways to Sunday as a person. If you can hack it getting your pizza job back and being a preloader, you should be able to do ok for a while until you make more money down the line as a preloader. Just my two cents. But you are dead on about drivers. Bunch of miserable people but they have good reason to be. Good to see that younger people these days value quality of life over wage slavery. "Oh I can barely walk but look at my brand new truck and fat house (that I live in by myself because my wife and kids got sick of never seeing me and if I was there me being a miserable mess of stress and pain.)"

Eff that.
 
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