Time for the Government to Start Playing Fair
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brown bomber
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brown bomber
can we all say Barney Frank and Senate Banking Committee...together ....PLEASE
Yes, it might have been stopped back in what 2002 if ole Barney would have listened.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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Brown Bomber, let me give you a quick BC tutorial. When you want to reply to a post without quoting another post, simply hit reply and start typing. When you want to reply to a post and do want to quote another post, simply hit reply with quote. This will open up an open box with the quoted material included--simply type below that, preview your post, and post it. Dave.
1989
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But barney has never been wrong. He still believes that FNM and FRE are good investments.
I don't like him. He is stubborn and should not be in Government.
Lue C Fur
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Here are 2 classic Bill O'Reilly clips where he talks about barney on his radio show and the other the interview on his show:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDou01X5d28
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Unj-kcGOe5I
Our govt SUCKS!!!!!!!!!! We need to throw them all out and start over.
wkmac
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Union and Lue,
One blames gov't and the other blames business and the truth is you are both right. Not that you will agree with all points but consider Remembering Corporate Liberalism. Auburn University Professor Roderick Long made IMO some good points and later in a Cato Unbound piece Corporations verses the Market; or, Whip Conflation Now along similar lines.
And when you thought big business is opposed to big gov't and big gov't welfare, well maybe Gerard Swope, former head of GE and the Swope Plan might make you both reconsider what you've believed about capitalism and the state. If you read down through about page 54, some of this might jump off the page in the recent healthcare deal but more important, all these ideas are going to need gov't to rubber stamp these cartelizations in order to get a compliant public to go along. Medicare came ino being via the Social Security Act of 1965' and thus the Swope legacy again.
And are we naive to think that big business isn't licking it's profit chops from Obama's sans Romney's healthcare plan not only from the direct business interest but then as it's able to shave off employer healthcare plans and free up those monies to it's profit side while the employee has to pay out of pocket and then big bidness plays the innocent and points us to gov't as the big bad wolf. You don't think that campaign and lobby money is for something good for us do you?
One blames gov't and the other blames business and the truth is you are both right. Not that you will agree with all points but consider Remembering Corporate Liberalism. Auburn University Professor Roderick Long made IMO some good points and later in a Cato Unbound piece Corporations verses the Market; or, Whip Conflation Now along similar lines.
And when you thought big business is opposed to big gov't and big gov't welfare, well maybe Gerard Swope, former head of GE and the Swope Plan might make you both reconsider what you've believed about capitalism and the state. If you read down through about page 54, some of this might jump off the page in the recent healthcare deal but more important, all these ideas are going to need gov't to rubber stamp these cartelizations in order to get a compliant public to go along. Medicare came ino being via the Social Security Act of 1965' and thus the Swope legacy again.
And are we naive to think that big business isn't licking it's profit chops from Obama's sans Romney's healthcare plan not only from the direct business interest but then as it's able to shave off employer healthcare plans and free up those monies to it's profit side while the employee has to pay out of pocket and then big bidness plays the innocent and points us to gov't as the big bad wolf. You don't think that campaign and lobby money is for something good for us do you?
diesel96
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You don't think that campaign and lobby money is for something good for us do you?
Seems like everybody needs a whipping boy, like a Barney Frank....We are such nieve arm-chair quarterbacks, if only we knew half the
that goes on in Wash from K Street to Wall Street.... Minting Bank Lobbyists on Capitol Hill - NYTimes.com
wkmac
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Seems like everybody needs a whipping boy, like a Barney Frank....We are such nieve arm-chair quarterbacks, if only we knew half the
Minting Bank Lobbyists on Capitol Hill - NYTimes.com
Good find! The documentary "The Corporation" IMO does a good job of pointing out this overwhelming influence and what was more interesting was right after the 14th amendment was passed, some 400 cases appeared in our courts under that amendment and of those nearly 400 cases, about 19 were cases involving former slaves for whom we were told the 14th amendment was for. All the other cases were on behalf of corporations who under the new citizenship language were now considered persons and the new judical law from these cases helped to propel business and specifically corporations into advantages they had never had before and would not have had without the 14th amendment. If one considers the history, one has to ask if the 14th amendment was really about corporations under the guise of helping freed slaves!
