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UnconTROLLed

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I should have guessed, it's easy to be jealous of us here in the land of the free, home of the brave.
You don't actually believe that rhetoric I hope...the numbers statistically show the U.S. is nowhere near the top of any categories of quality of life, freedom, democracy, or anything relevant to that.

In fact, the two things the U.S. does well - (1) massive amounts of concentrated wealth and wealth dsparity and (2) war
 
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UnconTROLLed

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. My attitude is that the US is still the best country to live in overall but there are definitely other countries that could be better if I'd be willing to give up things here (that help give the US that overall superiority) to go live there.
If you haven't lived outside the U.S. in different countries, how do you make this assertion or opinion?

Facepalms galore in this thread! :D
 

Overpaid Union Thug

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If you haven't lived outside the U.S. in different countries, how do you make this assertion or opinion?

Facepalms galore in this thread! :D
I have lived outside the U.S. I have also traveled allot. I have family outside the U.S. And I think you missed the key word in my comment which was "OVERALL." Whether or not a country is better to live in is subjective but OVERALL I believe we have a little something for everyone.

And their is no wealth disparity here. Money is not finite (especially with the Fed printing it) and the potential and freedom for the average Joe to be successful is still there. Even with the ever increasing regulations and legislation that kills small businesses and growth of successful ones.
 

UnconTROLLed

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I have lived outside the U.S. I have also traveled allot. I have family outside the U.S. And I think you missed the key word in my comment which was "OVERALL." Whether or not a country is better to live in is subjective but OVERALL I believe we have a little something for everyone.

And their is no wealth disparity here. Money is not finite (especially with the Fed printing it) and the potential and freedom for the average Joe to be successful is still there. Even with the ever increasing regulations and legislation that kills small businesses and growth of successful ones.
Admit that you are biased with stars and stripes gleaming in your eyes, and be done with it already. lol

There is no wealth disparity? That's silly.
 

rod

Retired 22 years
Those silly canuks only have two things going for them, strip clubs and their wildlife.
Always felt like I was stepping back in time heading to Canada. It's (pretty much) just another large Northern state in America but behind the times by 10+ years.


I always enjoyed going to Canada fishing and found the locals to be fun loving friendly people. I quit going because Minnesota and Canada started having border wars and started making all kinds of silly rules about where you could camp, how many fish you could bring back etc. Another reason was Canada all of a sudden wouldn't allow anyone with a DUI on their record to enter their country and being a couple of my fishing buds fell into that category it kind of put a damper on us going up there as a group. I miss Canadian fishing. In all honesty it puts Minnesota fishing to shame.
 

Overpaid Union Thug

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Admit that you are biased with stars and stripes gleaming in your eyes, and be done with it already. lol
It's easy to be. But like I said.... I have plenty of reasons otherwise.

There is no wealth disparity? That's silly.

If you mean unfair, unjust, not right, etc....then yes there is no disparity. If you mean just a simple imbalance then yes there is one. Money and success is mostly determined by ambition, drive, and performance and it doesn't hurt to know people either. Some inherit money or careers but even they usually have to work and perform well to maintain it. The only disparity is when someone expects them to give some of, or give up some of, theirs to those that didn't earn it.
 

rickyb

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In Canada you'll most likely die before you ever get treated.

In 2013, Canadians, on average, faced a four and a half month wait for medically necessary treatment after referral by a general practitioner. This wait time is almost twice as long as it was in 1993 when national wait times were first measured.
Further, 25 percent of Canadians waited for four months or more for elective surgery.

In 2013, the average wait time for an MRI was over two months, while Canadians needing a CT scan waited for almost a month.

Dr. Brian Day, former head of the Canadian Medical Association recently noted that “delayed care often transforms an acute and potentially reversible illness or injury into a chronic, irreversible condition that involves permanent disability.”

i havent heard of that, but then again i dont know too many canadian journalists or institutions "i trust".

my dad got a growth, and got it cut out in no time. i had an ingrown toe nail and got it taken care of right away when i was a teen. canadians cherish and highly regard our healthcare, but its not perfect and the government is trying to cut it, and probably privatize it although i havent heard of anything. i can see a doctor same day, and a specialist might take a few months. when i was in alberta, i did not pay a monthly fee for healthcare. UK has a flat rate for medicine, we have to pay whatever but at least the government buys it in bulk, which is what is done only for the americans in teh armed forces. im not aware of any of my grand parents who died because of lack of access to treatment or anyone for that matter.

o i was listening to ralph nader, the number 1 corporate crusader in america. he covered this: said the bottom third in EU and sorta canada is much better off than americans, yes they are taxed a little more, but they get more in return for it. krugman said the same thing about france.
 

rickyb

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In Canada you'll most likely die before you ever get treated.

In 2013, Canadians, on average, faced a four and a half month wait for medically necessary treatment after referral by a general practitioner. This wait time is almost twice as long as it was in 1993 when national wait times were first measured.
Further, 25 percent of Canadians waited for four months or more for elective surgery.

In 2013, the average wait time for an MRI was over two months, while Canadians needing a CT scan waited for almost a month.

Dr. Brian Day, former head of the Canadian Medical Association recently noted that “delayed care often transforms an acute and potentially reversible illness or injury into a chronic, irreversible condition that involves permanent disability.”


start at 46 min. nader compares america to western EU
 
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