trump 2016

[DriveInDriѵeOut]

Who's going to pick your lettuce?

The "blacks", try to keep up .

 

[realbrown1]

Who's going to pick your lettuce?

Maybe one of the 93 million Americans still out of work.

I wonder who picked the lettuce before illegal aliens came to our country?

Oh, I remember, it was Americans that picked the lettuce.

 

[realbrown1]

The "blacks", try to keep up .

I don't care what color the person is that picks the lettuce, as long as they are American.

 

[realbrown1]

Sure it matters. They'll just come back, because you refuse to address how they get here in the first place.

LOL.

My plan would imprison those caught in America on their 2nd offence.

Longer prison term for a 3rd offence.

 

[Sportello]

My plan would imprison those caught in America on their 2nd offence[sic].

Longer prison term for a 3rd offence[sic].

Cost to imprison one person per year =$31307
Cost to educate one person per year = $12401
Cost of total healthcare one person per year=$9255

That's not only stupid, but fiscally irresponsible.

 

[sailfish]

Cost to imprison one person per year =$31307
Cost to educate one person per year = $12401
Cost of total healthcare one person per year=$9255

That's not only stupid, but fiscally irresponsible.

Kicking one person the hell out would be cheaper than any of those.

 

[realbrown1]

Cost to imprison one person per year =$31307
Cost to educate one person per year = $12401
Cost of total healthcare one person per year=$9255

That's not only stupid, but fiscally irresponsible.

Cost to educate a person born in and stays in their native country.....$0

 

[The Other Side]

My plan would imprison those caught in America on their 2nd offence.

Longer prison term for a 3rd offence.

What prisons would you propose to place them in??

All of our prisons are overflowing with americans already.

There is no room for thousands of illegals.

THINK BIG bro..

TOS.

 

[The Other Side]

Cost to educate a person born in and stays in their native country.....$0

Cost to the american taxpayer for republican sponsored GUEST WORKER bills that bring in over 150 thousand aliens every year...

MILLIONS..

Thanks for voting for them. Enjoy paying for them.

TOS.

 

[realbrown1]

Cost to the american taxpayer for republican sponsored GUEST WORKER bills that bring in over 150 thousand aliens every year...

MILLIONS..

Thanks for voting for them. Enjoy paying for them.

TOS.

When was the last time the Republicans controlled both houses of Congress and the Presidency?

How about the Democrats?

Keep blaming Republicans if it makes you feel better.

But we both know, the Democrats kept it in place when they could had ended it.

 

[The Other Side]

When was the last time the Republicans controlled both houses of Congress and the Presidency?

How about the Democrats?

Keep blaming Republicans if it makes you feel better.

But we both know, the Democrats kept it in place when they could had ended it.

Is that your best excuse?? You couldnt have thought of something better??

MARCO RUBIO is co sponsor of a bill with Orrin Hatch to increase not only GUEST WORKERS, but now HIGH TECH GUEST WORKERS from india and pakistan..

Gee BROWN, why would they do this when immigration is such a big problem in the USA??

http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...sor-bill-to-increase-h-1b-guest-worker-visas/

TOS.

 

[bottomups]

Maybe one of the 93 million Americans still out of work.

I wonder who picked the lettuce before illegal aliens came to our country?

Oh, I remember, it was Americans that picked the lettuce.

Migrant workers. That was before they called then illegal aliens.
If Americans are picking your lettuce then the price would increase dramatically in the stores. The public would start bitching about the price increase and want the borders open again.

 

[realbrown1]

Is that your best excuse?? You couldnt have thought of something better??

MARCO RUBIO is co sponsor of a bill with Orrin Hatch to increase not only GUEST WORKERS, but now HIGH TECH GUEST WORKERS from india and pakistan..

Gee BROWN, why would they do this when immigration is such a big problem in the USA??

http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...sor-bill-to-increase-h-1b-guest-worker-visas/

TOS.

Would you like to fess up about YOUR LIE?

You left out the 3 Democrats who are co-sponsoring that bill with Rubio and Hatch.

I wonder why you just accused Republicans of wanting guest workers, but you don't accuse the Democrats of doing the same thing.

I guess that's why you are a TROLL.

 

[moreluck]

Migrant workers. That was before they called then illegal aliens.
If Americans are picking your lettuce then the price would increase dramatically in the stores. The public would start bitching about the price increase and want the borders open again.

The prices wouldn't increase if the 'jds' picked the lettuce......instead of playing video games.

 

[HBGPreloader]

Another wall supporter..

I am, absolutely, another wall supporter.

Great. Did you miss the stats on immigrants and how they get here? Just today, on FOX news of all places, MARCO RUBIO just echoed the very stats that I posted just days ago.

Building that "WALL" will have zero effect on steming the tide on those education costs you speak of.

I don't care much for the "figures" talking heads spew. So, I would rather refer to more reliable sources, such as Pew Research, which notes...

"Mexicans make up about half of all unauthorized immigrants (52%)"

Regardless of where they came from, the fact is 60% of these criminals entered the country illegally. The other 40% of immigrants became criminals when they overstayed their welcome.

So, of the ~12 million invaders already here, more than 7 million broke at least one law when they illegally entered this country.

Based upon these statistics alone, a good place to start securing our borders would be the one we share with Mexico. And, when that one is complete, we can work on securing the Canadian border.

Lets put it this way, lets say you had cancer over 100% of your body, check that, lets say Overpaid Union thug has cancer over 100% of his body and "I" as the doctor tell "HIM" that I will remove 1.5% of the cancer from his foot, then 1.5% from his hand , 1.5% from his shoulder and 1.5 % from his leg. Do you think that will have any negligible difference on the cancer itself as a whole??

Of course not.

Would it change your mind if I said I would build a wall of protection on the foot so the foot couldnt get cancer again while the rest of the body continues to spread the cancer??

Straw man argument. But, a great analogy because when you have cancer, like I had, you sometimes need to take extreme measures to rid it from your body.

The first step is to stop the cancer at its source. Then you go through additional treatments to rid your entire body of it and to keep it from reoccurring.

Get serious bro. This is a complex issue that requires serious debate in congress and the passage of real immigration reform.

So, exactly what are the complex issues that you claim need a congressional debate and reform? I ask because, from what I see, it's not that complex and the laws would work fine - if they were just enforced.

To sum it up in a way that even a gruber voter could understand, there are a very few reasons why the USA "needs" immigration...
1) To attract the best an brightest from around the world to benefit America,
2) To harvest the crops that would otherwise lie and waste in the fields due to the lack of "migrant workers", and
3) To offer relief and sanctuary to political refugees.

In fact, the law is quite clear. And, if you did a bit of research, you would learn that, as the laws stand right now, there are an unlimited number of H-2A agricultural visas to harvest our crops for nearly anyone that wants them. And, the restrictions on this type of visa are nearly non-existent.

A guest worker, if he (or she) so chooses, can legally stay in the country for up to 3 years. He can bring his family and even lawfully benefit from all the services the Taxpayers provide - including birthright citizenship to any child born while in the US. Essentially, the only caveats are he can not be a criminal and if he becomes unemployed, he must return to his home country.

YOU said you dont like anchor babies and then having to pay for them through entitlements, but the republicans are DIRECTLY responsible for most of those children now being born into this country through GUEST WORKERS.

Wrong.
You may want to reread what I typed because I didn't say anything about liking or disliking the anchor babies or illegals. I just pointed out the fact that these 4 million anchor babies are a significant financial and resource drain on our education system.
And, just an FYI, they are children of criminal invaders - not legal guest workers, which I addressed above.

Unless you sterilize each guest worker that comes into the country, how can we avoid it other than preventing them from coming here in the first place?

But as we all already know, the republicans will continue to pass laws that bring more and more immigrants into this country and YOU will pay for them regardless of how you feel about it.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't it obama, a democrat, the one that issued executive orders to prevent deportation of these criminals? And, isn't it his justice department that is currently fighting to prevent the enforcement of the current laws?

You really need to rethink the issue of immigration and what is the impetus for its creation in the first place.

If you think guest workers come here and simply "work", without establishing a life, wife, children, a home or an intention to stay, then you are sadly mistaken.

Just like the shooter in san francisco said in his jail house interview.. "i came for the work"...

TOS.

The one good thing about owning an operating your own business is you get to meet and work with a lot of great and interesting people. And, it just so happens I worked with several businesses that employ quite a few guest workers.

Some of these businesses actually go though the effort to hire guest workers that come to this great country every year. And, while the paperwork can be somewhat intimidating to the inexperienced, the process is not that complex.

And, sure, some of these migrant workers would like to stay, become US Citizens and start a family. However, by far, the majority of them want to do their jobs, earn their pay and return to their home country - to live like kings.

The one thing you should have learned by now, reforming the current laws will accomplish nothing if our borders are not secure. In addition, the current and/or future laws aren't worth the paper they're printed upon when the president issues executive orders banning enforcement or they are not enforced at all.

No doubt, there some illegals who are actually coming to the US to seek refuge from tyrants. However, the vast majority are just here to exploit our generosity. And, thanks to the current occupant of the white house, once they pop out an anchor baby, they're, essentially, set for at least 18 years - at the significant expense and burden of those of us who pay taxes.

 

[HBGPreloader]

Cost to imprison one person per year =$31307
Cost to educate one person per year = $12401
Cost of total healthcare one person per year=$9255

That's not only stupid, but fiscally irresponsible.

Kill 2 birds with 1 stone.
Several sheriff arpaio type of prisons scattered along our borders wouldn't cost much at all.
And, every convict could do 3 - 6 months of hard time assisting with building a wall before receiving a one way bus or a plane ride back to their home country.

 

[ImWaitingForTheDay]

What prisons would you propose to place them in??

All of our prisons are overflowing with americans already.

There is no room for thousands of illegals.

THINK BIG bro..

TOS.

I think there are those FEMA camps they could use.....

 

[realbrown1]

I think there are those FEMA camps they could use.....

Naw, let Sheriff Joe Arpaio have them.

Tent prisons in the dessert with green bologna and pink underwear.

They will never want to come back.

 

[MAKAVELI]

Now he's really delusional.
Donald Trump On Presidential Election: 'I'll Win The Latino Vote'
http://www.latintimes.com/donald-trump-presidential-election-ill-win-latino-vote-327739

 

[The Other Side]

Now he's really delusional.
Donald Trump On Presidential Election: 'I'll Win The Latino Vote'
http://www.latintimes.com/donald-trump-presidential-election-ill-win-latino-vote-327739

The guy can buy anything he wants in life except Reality and Votes.

Sure, he can motivate the white racist base and he has, but in order to win the white house, you need both the majority of hispanic and black vote and this he has ZERO chance of accomplishing.

As Rick Perry said just today " we never needed the black or latino vote to win the white house in the past, but today its a different electorate and we need to bring those folks into the fold"...

GOOD LUCK with that!!

Decades of race baiting, black hating, hispanic hating, false claiming of entitlement majorities and NOW he wants to bring them into the fold??

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL


All the GOP candidates are delusional at best.

TOS.