Mattmac0912
Banned
Certain people will keep drinking up whatever they see on tv news until the day they die
Ukrainians be like:
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Mattmac0912
Banned
It’s like when the news was trying to say hospitals here were overwhelmed with corona and the footage was from Italy. They’re just compulsive liars
not always
alot of this is probably to beat down china
Mattmac0912
Banned
I hate him because the news has turned him into a folk hero which tells me all I have to know I’ve seen the same thing with Robert mueller, Tony fauci and several others
Wrong buddy John.
China wants to team up with Russia to take over the world.
Then after that happens they will get rid of Russia
DriveInDriѵeOut
Inordinately Right
"Those who cannot be named trying to bring authoritarianism"
I can name them: Democrats.
The nice thing about forums like this, is these people reveal themselves. The last two years showed them for what they are.
Carry on.
so now NATO is weakening the team?
floridays
Well-Known Member
I love unfettered speech.
It allows me pinpoint my adversaries.
NATO is afraid to do anything right now
i doubt it, theyve expanded to 17 more countries around russia after they said they wouldnt
Just watch my friend
oldngray
nowhere special
Did you see that on your Russian news site?
"The U.S.S.R. was never offered a formal guarantee on the limits of NATO expansion post-1990," John Lough, the research associate who authored the section, wrote. "Moscow merely distorts history to help preserve an anti-Western consensus at home."
Did The West Promise Moscow That NATO Would Not Expand? Well, It's Complicated.
Mikhail Gorbachev himself said the question of NATO's expansion didn't come up in discussions when he was Soviet leader. That hasn't stopped the assertion that NATO and the United States misled Moscow from becoming a central grievance for Russian President Vladimir Putin and the Kremlin.
www.rferl.org
ask cherylDid you see that on your Russian news site?
"The U.S.S.R. was never offered a formal guarantee on the limits of NATO expansion post-1990," John Lough, the research associate who authored the section, wrote. "Moscow merely distorts history to help preserve an anti-Western consensus at home."
Did The West Promise Moscow That NATO Would Not Expand? Well, It's Complicated.
Mikhail Gorbachev himself said the question of NATO's expansion didn't come up in discussions when he was Soviet leader. That hasn't stopped the assertion that NATO and the United States misled Moscow from becoming a central grievance for Russian President Vladimir Putin and the Kremlin.
do you know what your quoting here lol. who knows maybe it has some good journalists like RT did.
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Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty
Government-Funded OrganizationRadio Free Europe/Radio Liberty is a United States government-funded organization that broadcasts and reports news, information, and analysis to countries in Eastern Europe, Central Asia, Caucasus, and the Middle East where it says …"
now back to the question at hand, it was a gentlemans agreement with UK, germany, france, USA. so it wasnt official. contrary to your article, russia allowed germany to be unified.
doesnt give you a right to encircle another country with weapons pointed at it, the way cuba pointed the weapons at you.
china is surrounded too btw. china and russia both nuclear, both extremely dangerous situations
Which countries would that be?ask cheryl
do you know what your quoting here lol. who knows maybe it has some good journalists like RT did.
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Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty
Government-Funded Organization
Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty is a United States government-funded organization that broadcasts and reports news, information, and analysis to countries in Eastern Europe, Central Asia, Caucasus, and the Middle East where it says …"
now back to the question at hand, it was a gentlemans agreement with UK, germany, france, USA. so it wasnt official. contrary to your article, russia allowed germany to be unified.
doesnt give you a right to encircle another country with weapons pointed at it, the way cuba pointed the weapons at you.
zubenelgenubi
I'm a star
Rebels? You mean the legitimate, sovereign, independent republics that Ukraine refuses to recognize, so they are ok to bomb a bunch of farmers, but Russia can't invade Ukraine to protect its interests? I'm not saying either is necessarily ok, but I'm not being hypocritical and ignoring the aggressions of Ukraine while pretending that Russia has no justification for invading.
What does that have to do with anything? Are you suggesting Ukraine wasn't bombing Donetsk and Luhansk because no refugees? I don't know that there weren't any, because it's irrelevent.
You brought up the civilian thing. You're ok when the US does it. Enough with the crocodile tears.
You brought up refugees like it has any relevance. What statement did I make that I couldn't back up? How did I make it personal, by calling you a chicken hawk?
If irrelevant. Muh refugees... lol.
What personal attack? Calling you a chicken hawk?
I don't care if people demonstrate their ignorance by calling me a Putin supporter. If you're not a chicken hawk, tell me how. Don't you like it when the US murders civilians in Muslim countries under false pretenses? Or do I have you mixed up with someone else? It gets hard to keep track when I have half a dozen people standing in line to demonstrate how little they understand what they are talking about. It gets a bit much always being right and trying to keep track of all the ways the individual members of my fan club are wrong.
Uh huh, and...? The issue isn't the propaganda, it's the people who keep trusting the sources that continue to lie to them, and get caught lying all the time. It's like a three year old who keeps touching a hot stove and can't figure out why they keep getting burnt.
Most of the pro-Ukraine people that I interact with seem to form their views of the situation based on two pieces of information, "Ukraine good" and "Putin bad". It's the same as all the anti-trumpers who only understand "Orange Man bad". The pro-trumpers lived through this already, and they can't see they are falling for the same tactics. It's maddening. We've been living through an even more concerted effort over the last two years with the official covid misinformation campaign. How anyone can trust anything said by the mefia and the establishment is beyond me.
floridays
Well-Known Member
The Budapest Memorandum: A Deal That Should Have Ensured Peace in Ukraine
By invading Ukraine, Russia has once again offended the nation’s sovereignty, and in doing so, breached the 1994 Budapest Memorandum. Russia is among the signatories of the agreement, which ensured respect for Ukraine’s borders and freedom from being invaded by Russia, in return for Ukraine giving up its nuclear weapons.
The Budapest Memorandum: A Deal That Should Have Ensured Peace - Caymans
By invading Ukraine, Russia has once again offended the nation’s sovereignty, and in doing
The following statement
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Again, you can't point to any huge refugee exodus from countries the U.S. has been at war at. So what, you say. Uh-huh.
Which countries have recognized the Donbas insurrectionists as legitimate? Uh-huh.
You are without a doubt one of the most disingenuous posters on here.
El Correcto
god is dead
I used to think the media was full of 
when it said right wingers fall for Russian propaganda yet here we are.
when it said right wingers fall for Russian propaganda yet here we are. if I’m so misinformed why won’t you people give me some reading material. Oh wait you pull this non sense out of your ass or it is written in broken English translated from Russian.
