Ukrainians be like:

zubenelgenubi

I'm a star
Again, you can't point to any huge refugee exodus from countries the U.S. has been at war at. So what, you say. Uh-huh.
Ask the European Union. Lol. Now I proved your point wrong and irrevlevent.

Which countries have recognized the Donbas insurrectionists as legitimate? Uh-huh.

Insurrectionists, like the January 6th protesters. I smell a glowie.

You are without a doubt one of the most disingenuous posters on here.

You are without a doubt the person who can write the most without saying anything relevant to a topic.
 

zubenelgenubi

I'm a star
I used to think the media was full of :censored2: when it said right wingers fall for Russian propaganda yet here we are.

if I’m so misinformed why won’t you people give me some reading material. Oh wait you pull this non sense out of your ass or it is written in broken English translated from Russian.

I'm sorry you don't like it when other people won't do your homework for you, then you can only accuse them of making stuff up.

Besides, I've posted plenty of sources to back up what I say, it's not my fault you refuse to look at them, and then have the gall to say I don't give you any reading material. Some are even videos so you don't have to overheat your brain pretending to be able to read.
 
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zubenelgenubi

I'm a star

You need me to draw you a map when a simple Google search will answer your question.

The Budapest Memorandum: A Deal That Should Have Ensured Peace in Ukraine​


By invading Ukraine, Russia has once again offended the nation’s sovereignty, and in doing so, breached the 1994 Budapest Memorandum. Russia is among the signatories of the agreement, which ensured respect for Ukraine’s borders and freedom from being invaded by Russia, in return for Ukraine giving up its nuclear weapons.

Sure, I guess the genocide of ethnic Russian farmers is no reason to invade Ukraine.


The following statement
@zubenelgenubi ?

Which was made after your other post. You guys write so much nonsense, it's exhausting combating it all.
 

zubenelgenubi

I'm a star
Pretty much all the evidence you need right here.

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floridays

Well-Known Member
You need me to draw you a map when a simple Google search will answer your question.
I supplied the map, you just can't produce the regions because they don't exist as you define them.

You mean the legitimate, sovereign, independent republics that Ukraine refuses to recognize
The regions you speak of are part of the 1994 map that Russia agreed to in the 1994 Budapest Memorandum.

Putin broke the agreement moving into Ukraine.

You are spreading lies

This is the big lie used to justify the invasion.
You mean the legitimate, sovereign, independent republics that Ukraine refuses to recognize, so they are ok to bomb a bunch of farmers, but Russia can't invade Ukraine to protect its interests?

Do you spread the lie on purpose or do you choose to be ignorant?
 

zubenelgenubi

I'm a star
I supplied the map, you just can't produce the regions because they don't exist as you define them.
I didn't define them. You are presenting a red herring.

The regions you speak of are part of the 1994 map that Russia agreed to in the 1994 Budapest Memorandum.

Uh huh. Did that agreement preclude those regions from declaring independence, especially in the face of genocide?

Putin broke the agreement moving into Ukraine.

After Ukraine broke the Minsk agreement.

You are spreading lies
Whatever you say.

This is the big lie used to justify the invasion.

The "big lie"? You'll have to be more specific, there's so many big lies out there. "Too big to fail", "Russian Collusion", "Safe and Effective", "Free and Fair". You believe the people pushing those lies, then call me the liar. Ouch.
Do you spread the lie on purpose or do you choose to be ignorant?

I'm sorry, this seems like one of those times you are rhetorically talking to yourself. I'll be silent and let you answer.
 

El Correcto

god is dead
I'm sorry you don't like it when other people won't do your homework for you, then you can only accuse them of making stuff up.

Besides, I've posted plenty of sources to back up what I say, it's not my fault you refuse to look at them, and then have the gall to say I don't give you any reading material. Some are even videos so you don't have to overheat your brain pretending to be able to read.
I have done a tad bit of homework. What you are saying is mostly non sense.
 

El Correcto

god is dead
The real problem was the withdrawal from Afghanistan, no meaningful retaliation against our troops being attacked, america surrendering it’s power abroad.

All things you maroon voted for the last 16 or so years. All you people are seeing is the results of your failed ideology abroad coming home to roost and instead of owning up to being wrong, you double down on Russian propaganda. Russians would of and never should of had the balls to do something like this. But you people promote a weak america and broadcasting that to our enemies.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
Ask the European Union. Lol. Now I proved your point wrong and irrevlevent.



Insurrectionists, like the January 6th protesters. I smell a glowie.



You are without a doubt the person who can write the most without saying anything relevant to a topic.
The U.S. didn't cause the Syrian refugee crisis in Europe. Period. You can't point to one war in recent memory with a refugee crisis caused by the U.S. because it's our policy to avoid civilian casualties.

Again, the Donbas region is a part of Ukraine. The so called republics are a sham set up by Russia to use for what they're doing now.

You live a rich fantasy life.
 

BigGuy2732

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Patriarch Kirill is so epic.

“ For eight years there have been attempts to destroy what exists in the Donbass. And in the Donbass there is rejection, a fundamental rejection of the so-called values that are offered today by those who claim world power. Today there is such a test for the loyalty of this government, a kind of pass to that “happy” world, the world of excess consumption, the world of visible “freedom”. Do you know what this test is? The test is very simple and at the same time terrible – this is a gay parade. The demands on many to hold a gay parade are a test of loyalty to that very powerful world; and we know that if people or countries reject these demands, then they do not enter into that world, they become strangers to it.

But we know what this sin is, which is promoted through the so-called marches of dignity. This is a sin that is condemned by the Word of God – both the Old and the New Testament. Moreover, the Lord, condemning sin, does not condemn the sinner. He only calls him to repentance, but not to ensure that through a sinful person and his behavior, sin becomes a life standard, a variation of human behavior – respected and acceptable.

If humanity recognizes that sin is not a violation of God’s law, if humanity agrees that sin is one of the options for human behavior, then human civilization will end there. And gay parades are designed to demonstrate that sin is one of the variations of human behavior. That is why in order to enter the club of those countries, it is necessary to hold a gay pride parade. Not to make a political statement “we are with you”, not to sign any agreements, but to hold a gay parade. And we know how people resist these demands and how this resistance is suppressed by force. This means that we are talking about imposing by force a sin condemned by God’s law, and therefore, by force to impose on people the denial of God and His truth.

Therefore, what is happening today in the sphere of international relations has not only political significance. We are talking about something different and much more important than politics. We are talking about human salvation, about where humanity will end up, on which side of God the Savior, who comes into the world as the Judge and Creator, on the right or on the left. Today, out of weakness, stupidity, ignorance, and most often out of unwillingness to resist, many go there, to the left side. And all that is connected with the justification of sin, condemned by the Bible, is today a test for our faithfulness to the Lord, for our ability to confess faith in our Savior.”
 

zubenelgenubi

I'm a star
The U.S. didn't cause the Syrian refugee crisis in Europe. Period. You can't point to one war in recent memory with a refugee crisis caused by the U.S. because it's our policy to avoid civilian casualties.
Wow, who lives a rich fantasy life here? If That's our policy, why is drone strike Biden being impeached for murdering a civilian and his family. Once again, your sticking to a refugee talking point like it means something.

Again, the Donbas region is a part of Ukraine. The so called republics are a sham set up by Russia to use for what they're doing now.

Quick, someone alert the Queen! The US is ready to come home! Donetsk and Luhansk aren't real because Van dweller says so.

You live a rich fantasy life.

You believe what globalist totalitarianists want you to believe, and you think you are enlightened.
 

zubenelgenubi

I'm a star
I have done a tad bit of homework. What you are saying is mostly non sense.

You think so because you are an imperialist. Increasing "western influence" through military adventurism was always going to back fire. All you need is a dementia ridden puppet in the white house, a military that has been captured by enemy combatants at the highest levels, and an attempt to murder or oust a large portion of the real service men through experimental gene therapy and replacement by woke cultists. We have all that, which is why we are not intervening to save our "ally" from those mean ol' Ruskies.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
Wow, who lives a rich fantasy life here? If That's our policy, why is drone strike Biden being impeached for murdering a civilian and his family. Once again, your sticking to a refugee talking point like it means something.



Quick, someone alert the Queen! The US is ready to come home! Donetsk and Luhansk aren't real because Van dweller says so.



You believe what globalist totalitarianists want you to believe, and you think you are enlightened.
I've already said civilians die in war. It's inevitable and our government certainly makes mistakes. But you didn't see the population of Kabul flee after that drone strike. Not the same as a genocidal campaign like what is happening against civilians in Ukraine. Again, you're disingenuous. You're taking sides and sweeping war crimes under the rug. And apparently you're more worried about behind the scenes nebulous forces than very real enemies like China and Russia. Ah, the rich fantasy life of the conspiracy theorist! When I was a kid it was Gog and Magog. When things don't turn out as expected it's on to the next conspiracy. Are there men working behind the scenes to further their own ends? Always have been. George Soros comes to mind. But an attempt to turn us all into slaves or kill us? You live a rich fantasy life.
 

vantexan

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You think so because you are an imperialist. Increasing "western influence" through military adventurism was always going to back fire. All you need is a dementia ridden puppet in the white house, a military that has been captured by enemy combatants at the highest levels, and an attempt to murder or oust a large portion of the real service men through experimental gene therapy and replacement by woke cultists. We have all that, which is why we are not intervening to save our "ally" from those mean ol' Ruskies.
Silly BS. We aren't intervening to save Ukraine because we don't have the same obligations we have with NATO and we aren't going to risk a nuclear attack to save them.
 

zubenelgenubi

I'm a star
I've already said civilians die in war. It's inevitable and our government certainly makes mistakes.
You keep saying that, and I still don't care.

But you didn't see the population of Kabul flee after that drone strike. Not the same as a genocidal campaign like what is happening against civilians in Ukraine.
What's happening against civilians in Ukraine? Invading forces are negotiating safe evavuation routes for them, while the Ukraine government is trying to prevent people from leaving? We agree there's genocide happening in Ukraine. Who's causing it?

Again, you're disingenuous.
Because you say so. Van boy is the arbiter of truth. All hail van boy.

You're taking sides and sweeping war crimes under the rug.

I know what side I'm on, that's true. And I'm pointing out war crimes that you call fantasy, but I'm sweeping them under the rug. Who's committing war crimes?

And apparently you're more worried about behind the scenes nebulous forces than very real enemies like China and Russia.
Nope. I am worried about the very real enemy who is trying to commit global genocide, by their own admission. But you strawman that by lying about "nebulous" forces. China and Russia are economic rivals to be sure, and their interests aren't in line with the principals of freedom and liberty. I have no problem admitting that. But we have a much more dangerous enemy that poses a far more imminent threat, and you allow them to distract you with Ruskophobia.

Ah, the rich fantasy life of the conspiracy theorist!
Ah, the last refuge of an enabling collaborator, the old "everyone I disagree with is a conspiracy theorist." Good luck with that logic.

When I was a kid it was Gog and Magog. When things don't turn out as expected it's on to the next conspiracy.
Literally every "conspiracy theory" I have shared over the last two years has been true. You don't seem to have a very reliable way to sort out what's what. Hope that works out for you.

Are there men working behind the scenes to further their own ends? Always have been. George Soros comes to mind. But an attempt to turn us all into slaves or kill us? You live a rich fantasy life.
They don't hide it. It's in their agendas they post online. Lol.
 
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