Ukrainians be like:

[rickyb]

Did you see that on your Russian news site?

"The U.S.S.R. was never offered a formal guarantee on the limits of NATO expansion post-1990," John Lough, the research associate who authored the section, wrote. "Moscow merely distorts history to help preserve an anti-Western consensus at home."

Did The West Promise Moscow That NATO Would Not Expand? Well, It's Complicated.

Mikhail Gorbachev himself said the question of NATO's expansion didn't come up in discussions when he was Soviet leader. That hasn't stopped the assertion that NATO and the United States misled Moscow from becoming a central grievance for Russian President Vladimir Putin and the Kremlin.

www.rferl.org

See ur problem is you look at things superficially, like the matrix, instead of getting past the appearances and finding out the truth

U making fun of russia today while at the same time posting usas own version of russia today, shouldbe been grounds 4 u to admit the error of ur ways or for some1 to call u out, but u did not bc ur a _________

In a sense u looking at things superficially is comparable to knee jerk reactions to rascism or socialism which u also know nothing of

 

[rickyb]

Again, you can't point to any huge refugee exodus from countries the U.S. has been at war at. So what, you say. Uh-huh.

Which countries have recognized the Donbas insurrectionists as legitimate? Uh-huh.

You are without a doubt one of the most disingenuous posters on here.

Syria? 5 million

Greece? that was financial warfare

 

[jimdandy3]

The U.S. didn't cause the Syrian refugee crisis in Europe. Period. You can't point to one war in recent memory with a refugee crisis caused by the U.S. because it's our policy to avoid civilian casualties.

Again, the Donbas region is a part of Ukraine. The so called republics are a sham set up by Russia to use for what they're doing now.

You live a rich fantasy life.

Yes we did start the refugee crisis in Europe.

How the fall of Qaddafi gave rise to Europe's migrant crisis

Under Qaddafi, Libya worked closely with Europe to harshly stem the flow of migrants across the Mediterranean. But the country's chaos has upended that.

www.csmonitor.com

The Legacy of Obama's 'Worst Mistake'

There’s a problem with the American way of war.

www.theatlantic.com

 

[BigGuy2732]

define victory. They're going to lose a lot of men and equipment if they do win. They could very well face an insurgency that last decades.
The economic sanctions will continue forever starving and alienating the Russians from the world.

where is the victory?

The victory is that Russia is unintentionally on the side of good. This is just a continuation of the eternal battle of good and evil. The west represents an empire that forces gay pride parades and sacrificing babies to moloch on whatever country they deem worthy to topple for economic gain.

The global American empire is from hell. Evil has its hour, God has His day. This is why Russia will win.

 

[fishtm2001]

The victory is that Russia is unintentionally on the side of good. This is just a continuation of the eternal battle of good and evil. The west represents an empire that forces gay pride parades and sacrificing babies to moloch on whatever country they deem worthy to topple for economic gain.

The global American empire is from hell. Evil has its hour, God has His day. This is why Russia will win.

Thank you for your kind words, comrade.

 

[fishtm2001]

Tucker Carlson mocked on Twitter as "TuckyoRose" after Kremlin calls him "essential"

Lt. Col. Vindman offers Fox News host advice: "Live your life" such that Putin "doesn't think you're an ally"

www.salon.com

 

[newfie]

Afghanistan isn’t over,

so you hope. just go there and fight them and stop trying to send our kids there to get killed

 

[newfie]

Perhaps, but we will get a good chance to see how your way works out.

no we won't because we're too stupid to build the damn wall and build up our home defenses.

like I said previously I'm fine with our attack to go get bin laden. I'm not fine with leaving our kids there to be the target in a shooting gallery.

 

[newfie]

The victory is that Russia is unintentionally on the side of good. This is just a continuation of the eternal battle of good and evil. The west represents an empire that forces gay pride parades and sacrificing babies to moloch on whatever country they deem worthy to topple for economic gain.

The global American empire is from hell. Evil has its hour, God has His day. This is why Russia will win.

define victory. They're going to lose a lot of men and equipment if they do win. They could very well face an insurgency that last decades.
The economic sanctions will continue forever starving and alienating the Russians from the world.

where is the victory?

again define win

 

[fishtm2001]

no we won't because we're too stupid to build the damn wall and build up our home defenses.

like I said previously I'm fine with our attack to go get bin laden. I'm not fine with leaving our kids there to be the target in a shooting gallery.

Worse than leaving our kids there was the heavy bombing which killed more civilians than we lost on 9/11. That, and the Iraq invasion cost us all the international good will we had initially. Thanks, GW.

 

[El Correcto]

Worse than leaving our kids there was the heavy bombing which killed more civilians than we lost on 9/11. That, and the Iraq invasion cost us all the international good will we had initially. Thanks, GW.

America was fighting justifiable wars. Russia is not. America had thousands of citizens murdered on their own soil, it wasn’t some foreign civil war, it was an attack on the country. Afghanistan’s government could of rolled over on the terrorists and cooperated, they chose violence.

 

[fishtm2001]

America was fighting justifiable wars. Russia is not. America had thousands of citizens murdered on their own soil, it wasn’t some foreign civil war, it was an attack on the country. Afghanistan’s government could of rolled over on the terrorists and cooperated, they chose violence.

The Afghan government was intertwined with the Taliban, not in any position to roll over. Face it, George wanted to look tough and blow stuff up. Then when they had sound intel that Bin Laden was in the mountains bordering Pakistan he decided to invade Iraq instead of pursuing. I never mentioned Russia at all in comparison. We kill civilians mostly by accident ( although we could show more restraint). Russia kills civilians intentionally.

 

[vantexan]

Syria? 5 million

Greece? that was financial warfare

Syria? That was Russia and Assad using chemical weapons on them, not us.

 

[vantexan]

Yes we did start the refugee crisis in Europe.

How the fall of Qaddafi gave rise to Europe's migrant crisis

Under Qaddafi, Libya worked closely with Europe to harshly stem the flow of migrants across the Mediterranean. But the country's chaos has upended that.

www.csmonitor.com

The Legacy of Obama's 'Worst Mistake'

There’s a problem with the American way of war.

www.theatlantic.com

Really? How so? It was Merkel and the EU pushing for those refugees. Most of whom were young men. Very few families. The U.S. fought ISIS in Syria. Our role was very limited compared to rebel groups fighting Assad's troops(with the assistance of Russia).

 

[vantexan]

Syria? 5 million

Greece? that was financial warfare

Greece? They broke the bank and had to implement austerity measures demanded by the IMF and EU in order to get some assistance.

 

[El Correcto]

The Afghan government was intertwined with the Taliban, not in any position to roll over. Face it, George wanted to look tough and blow stuff up. Then when they had sound intel that Bin Laden was in the mountains bordering Pakistan he decided to invade Iraq instead of pursuing. I never mentioned Russia at all in comparison. We kill civilians mostly by accident ( although we could show more restraint). Russia kills civilians intentionally.

Afghan government is the taliban, a jihadi drug cartel that sponsors international terrorism.
They were intertwined with a jihadi movement al qaeda. It was never about Bin Ladin, it was about making sure another 9/11 didn’t happen. You do that by nation building in these terrorist led hotbeds.

 

[vantexan]

Afghan government is the taliban, a jihadi drug cartel that sponsors international terrorism.
They were intertwined with a jihadi movement al qaeda. It was never about Bin Ladin, it was about making sure another 9/11 didn’t happen. You do that by nation building in these terrorist led hotbeds.

And thankfully after 20 years average Afghanis saw the blessings of democracy and fought like tigers to destroy the Taliban.

A survey was taken among Afghanis and most preferred that we would leave. They may not have wanted the Taliban but they rejected outsiders controlling their country. If you want to nation build you have to win hearts and minds. Until then it's just a pointless exercise that gets people killed.

 

[El Correcto]

And thankfully after 20 years average Afghanis saw the blessings of democracy and fought like tigers to destroy the Taliban.

A survey was taken among Afghanis and most preferred that we would leave. They may not have wanted the Taliban but they rejected outsiders controlling their country. If you want to nation build you have to win hearts and minds. Until then it's just a pointless exercise that gets people killed.

Doesn’t matter their opinion to be honest. They were better off with an American backed democracy, especially the women and religious minority groups. It doesn’t matter because of what is happening now and what the taliban does. Under US guidance it was no longer a sponsor of international terrorism, it was no longer a threat to our nation. Now it is.

 

[vantexan]

Doesn’t matter their opinion to be honest. They were better off with an American backed democracy, especially the women and religious minority groups. It doesn’t matter because of what is happening now and what the taliban does. Under US guidance it was no longer a sponsor of international terrorism, it was no longer a threat to our nation. Now it is.

It was never a real democracy. Total charade.

 

[El Correcto]

It was never a real democracy. Total charade.

Yet again doesn’t matter. All that mattered was toppling the taliban and setting up a US backed government with the support of our European allies that would keep out sponsors of international terrorism against the west.

You people lost the plot with the popular talking point about Bin Ladin, that’s simple minded thinking.