Ukrainians be like:

olroadbeech

Happy Verified UPSer
The whole story is not being told as usual.
Russia feels threatened by NATO.It would almost be like if Canada or Mexico became communist.

Of course there are more reasons. Trillions of gallons of natural gas under the Ukraine.
Wars are almost always over money.
 

Babagounj

Strength through joy
The whole story is not being told as usual.
Russia feels threatened by NATO.It would almost be like if Canada or Mexico became communist.

Of course there are more reasons. Trillions of gallons of natural gas under the Ukraine.
Wars are almost always over money.
Russia pays Ukraine $2B/year in transit fees for their pipeline that goes to the evil West.
One of two major pipelines.
 

DELACROIX

In the Spirit of Honore' Daumier
The whole story is not being told as usual.
Russia feels threatened by NATO.It would almost be like if Canada or Mexico became communist.

Of course there are more reasons. Trillions of gallons of natural gas under the Ukraine.
Wars are almost always over money.

We will never see the whole story, a timetable has been set up and it isn’t favorable to Ukrainians. I hate to see good men die because of deals being done behind the closed doors, we are always going to have A holes running things, we have ours and Russia has theirs.
 

olroadbeech

Happy Verified UPSer
Russia pays Ukraine $2B/year in transit fees for their pipeline that goes to the evil West.
One of two major pipelines.
yes that's true but what about what is under the ground? plus Russia feels like they are being hemmed in by NATO.

when the Soviet Union broke up they lost about half their GDP plus all that territory, people , etc. They have about the same size economy as Spain now.

Their greatest asset is their energy holdings.
Putin wants to take back what he thinks is his or back to Russia's former glory.

Right now he is very dangerous. Like an animal that has been backed into a corner. I don't see how he can save face .If he backs off that will be seen as defeat.

He may be unhinged enough to resort to nuclear weapons.

I agree that he should be assassinated by his own people.
 
yes that's true but what about what is under the ground? plus Russia feels like they are being hemmed in by NATO.

when the Soviet Union broke up they lost about half their GDP plus all that territory, people , etc. They have about the same size economy as Spain now.

Their greatest asset is their energy holdings.
Putin wants to take back what he thinks is his or back to Russia's former glory.

Right now he is very dangerous. Like an animal that has been backed into a corner. I don't see how he can save face .If he backs off that will be seen as defeat.

He may be unhinged enough to resort to nuclear weapons.

I agree that he should be assassinated by his own people.
who Biden yeah he should be
 

Babagounj

Strength through joy
If Putin wants a growing economy, then he should have branched out and not be so dependent on oil.
60% of the country's income is from oil.
Which accounts for 40% of the spending budget.


And now Turkey has closed access to the Black Sea through the Dardanelles and Bosporus Straits.
Under several treaties Russian ships ( as long as they were not at war with Turkey ) were allowed to return home.
Turkey has stated that the Russian ships are not returning home so they can legally close the seaways.
 
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