Ukrainians be like:

floridays

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Almost like it's a planned operation,

Trouble No More fits tonight.

For me, the light came early in my life. It may be later for you.

It will come.
It better hurry then, I'm not getting stronger, my eyes are weaker, my vocabulary is decimated, I still know right from wrong however.
 

Sportello

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Us old men are not strong. anymore, but will fight to the death.

I love this country. I have the wherewithal to go anywhere on this Earth and live comfortably.. I'm good right here, in spite of people who cannot be named trying to bring authoritarianism to the place I was blessed to be born in.

The nice thing about forums like this, is people reveal themselves.

Like I said, this is a night for these songs:

 

floridays

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Us old men are not strong. anymore, but will fight to the death.

I love this country. I have the wherewithal to go anywhere on this Earth and live comfortably.. I'm good right here, in spite of people who cannot be named trying to bring authoritarianism to the place I was blessed to be born in.

The nice thing about forums like this, is people reveal themselves.

Like I said, this is a night for these songs:

I saw him on his first tour after releasing this album, lot of lotta truth dealt here.
 

zubenelgenubi

I'm a star
And you know this?

What is your basis for the claim?

Is he?


I don't generally trust Reuters, but this agrees with other sources I do trust. The narrative being pushed by main stream western mefia in general is a lie, but sometimes they have to do damage control to not tip off the more brainwashed believers.
 

zubenelgenubi

I'm a star
He is a Putinista.

Lol. No. I'm anti-deep state/mefia. I don't have to like someone they're lying about to know they are lying. And they are generally a good reverse barometer for what's true. Kinda like you. You must be an establishment/deep state/mefia-ista.

Or maybe you're trying to run 128 bit software on an 8 bit system.
 
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Sportello

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Lol. No. I'm anti-deep state/mefia. I don't have to like someone they're lying about to know they are lying. And they are generally a good reverse barometer for what's true. Kinda like you. You must be and establishment/deep state/mefia-ista.

Or maybe you're trying to run 128 bit software on an 8 bit system.
That made sense,
 

zubenelgenubi

I'm a star
I'm having some trouble squaring some peoples thoughts here with thgeir previous stances.

Hard to believe you and I can agree on Putin's evilness and some I agree with on most points are at odds on this.

I have not and will not change my view.

Maybe I'm missing something, I don't think I am however.

You realize Ukraine has been attacking the Donbas region for 6-8 years, even after they signed the minsk agreement, right? You realize the establishment has been using Ukraine to launder money (i.e. Hunter/Burisma), and Biden is guilty of, and bragged about, strong arming Ukraine into ending the investigation into Burisma? And that the US has been using bio-labs in Ukraine to conduct biological research that was banned in the US? I don't care what you think about Putin, I'm not going to defend him, because I don't really care about him, but however bad you think he is, things are as bad or worse in Ukraine.
 

floridays

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I don't generally trust Reuters, but this agrees with other sources I do trust. The narrative being pushed by main stream western mefia in general is a lie, but sometimes they have to do damage control to not tip off the more brainwashed believers.
I understand, actually I don't.
Lol. No. I'm anti-deep state/mefia. I don't have to like someone they're lying about to know they are lying. And they are generally a good reverse barometer for what's true. Kinda like you. You must be and establishment/deep state/mefia-ista.

Or maybe you're trying to run 128 bit software on an 8 bit system.
I'm simple minded, don't like to think much on my own.
Best thing for a lazy dip:censored2: :poop: like me is to ask an easy question. Or two.

Is Putin righteous in his action(s)?
Is Zelensky a patriot leader of Ukraine.

All :bsbullf: aside, who you asking to the prom?
 

floridays

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You realize Ukraine has been attacking the Donbas region for 6-8 years, even after they signed the minsk agreement, right? You realize the establishment has been using Ukraine to launder money (i.e. Hunter/Burisma), and Biden is guilty of, and bragged about, strong arming Ukraine into ending the investigation into Burisma? And that the US has been using bio-labs in Ukraine to conduct biological research that was banned in the US? I don't care what you think about Putin, I'm not going to defend him, because I don't really care about him, but however bad you think he is, things are as bad or worse in Ukraine.
You just answered the question I just sent, before I sent it.
 

El Correcto

god is dead
You realize Ukraine has been attacking the Donbas region for 6-8 years, even after they signed the minsk agreement, right? You realize the establishment has been using Ukraine to launder money (i.e. Hunter/Burisma), and Biden is guilty of, and bragged about, strong arming Ukraine into ending the investigation into Burisma? And that the US has been using bio-labs in Ukraine to conduct biological research that was banned in the US? I don't care what you think about Putin, I'm not going to defend him, because I don't really care about him, but however bad you think he is, things are as bad or worse in Ukraine.
Source on the bio labs doing researched banned in America. Yes governments are corrupt surprise surprise, why exactly is that important while discussing the war?
I do care about America’s enemies. Strange how you people just wish to turn a blind eye to them while endlessly bashing allies under attack.
 

vantexan

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We’ll see huh. I know who’s made our lives miserable the past 15-20 years. It’s not vlad Putin

I forgot it was Putins police minions beating people in the street for walking their dog with no mask outside their own houses…oh wait that was in Australia
How has your life been made miserable the last 15-20 years? There are certainly things being pushed by the Left I don't agree with but overall my life is of my own choosing. Now take the Ukrainians. You may not like their leadership and it does appear that corruption there is a way of life. Happens when you're poor and there's only so much economic pie to go around. But what of the average Ukrainian? Right now their world is being completely torn apart by outside forces. They have no control and if they were poor before they're really going to be miserable afterwards. Assuming they live through this. We should keep things in perspective as far as how miserable one is. We do complain and Biden is certainly giving us a lot to complain about. But we're quite a ways from being miserable compared to some places in the world. Blowing our country up as it seems some would like to do is the path of last resort. Want misery? That'll do it.
 

newfie

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Man…nothing you see on tv news is real.
He's in Kviv . His ass is on the line. The media has not shown him pulling babies from burning buildings but simply being where he needs to be leading the charge. what else did you need to know to overcome your i hate everyone politics?
you're answer seems to be I hate the guy and I'll fill in the blanks why later.
 

newfie

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You must be his gay lover you should see if he’ll make some more videos with you. Oh and I hate to break it to you but if you fought in any foreign war since ww2 you weren’t fighting for your country you were fighting for the deep state
Ah homo phobe too and now military service phobe. Not surprised . Your politics appear to be that you hate everyone.

someday when you grow up you have to find out what country and what people you do like and then go join them.
 

newfie

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I appreciate your comments in support of Zelenskyy and Ukraine.

Is there like an ideological split going on between relatively reasonable Trumpees who are not Putin cuckservatives and Trumpees who are down on their hands and knees for Russia right now?
He's not a trumpee he's a ihateeveryonee
 

newfie

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Is he?

I havent seen those pictures. I have seen a leader thats standing his ground. It would be too easy for him to pull back to a city close to poland and lead there. Instead he's with his people on what is the front line of that war.
 

newfie

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I would imagine that Putin is taking precautions also...keep moving and never be a stationary target 🎯...

Death squads can go both ways...😳
I know the size of his conference table and the distance he sits from his "trusted general" can not be any greater.
 

newfie

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You realize Ukraine has been attacking the Donbas region for 6-8 years, even after they signed the minsk agreement, right? You realize the establishment has been using Ukraine to launder money (i.e. Hunter/Burisma), and Biden is guilty of, and bragged about, strong arming Ukraine into ending the investigation into Burisma? And that the US has been using bio-labs in Ukraine to conduct biological research that was banned in the US? I don't care what you think about Putin, I'm not going to defend him, because I don't really care about him, but however bad you think he is, things are as bad or worse in Ukraine.
I agree Ukraine's leadership is corrupt. I dont agree that Russia has a right to invade them. I don't agree that Russia has a right to put their innocent people in harms way. Its that simple for me and anything else is muddy waters.
 
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