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El Correcto

god is dead
Nah, we're just not into "kill'em all, let God sort them out!"

By the way I never intended to pick up some freebie from the government if something bad like a heart attack happened. Just worked out that way. But considering how our economy is being handled I'll gladly take whatever they're willing to give me.
Our economy is going that way because of what they are willing to do for you and ā€œgiveā€ you.
 

vantexan

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Our economy is going that way because of what they are willing to do for you and ā€œgiveā€ you.
Well aware. Which is exactly why when you get old and infirm and are poor you're thankful for Medicare and Social Security. Easy to feel invincible when you're young.
 

El Correcto

god is dead
Well aware. Which is exactly why when you get old and infirm and are poor you're thankful for Medicare and Social Security. Easy to feel invincible when you're young.
It’s also easy to enjoy a declining society and economy as long as you’re receiving hand outs while you’re old.
I don’t care that you are poor and sad, no offense, I vote for the long term success of the country and it’s people, for that success to spread abroad. Not your short term life.
 

vantexan

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It’s also easy to enjoy a declining society and economy as long as you’re receiving hand outs while you’re old.
I don’t care that you are poor and sad, no offense, I vote for the long term success of the country and it’s people, for that success to spread abroad. Not your short term life.
You're voting for Darwinian capitalism. Mankind is better than that. As far as I'm concerned one should do the very best one can, no matter the work. Go as far as you can based on your abilities if you choose to, but always try. But our system rewards some more than others and for many to succeed financially others have to come up short. If not please explain to me all the $8-$12hr jobs out there? If only all jobs paid at least $30hr and beyond without the corresponding prices that would require. They don't, never will, and some who see themselves as a winner are quick to tell others less well paid to accept their lot in life. If the system rewards some at the expense, even exploitation, of others, fine. But those who benefit the most from the system should be willing to at least assist in the retirement and care of those who helped them succeed. But too many hate having to do things like match Social Security contributions and would end the program tomorrow. My father is 83, has everything paid for and about $140k in the bank, down from one point $325k. He's a retired minister, doesn't live an extravagant life, and if he didn't have his $1800 a month Social Security he'd be broke. There are millions like him. And many millions with less SS, no savings, and barely scrape by. Social Security and Medicare are the best ideas the Democrats have ever had. Doesn't mean we should continue to spend like crazy, but a great nation can afford a social safety net that we can all benefit from.
 

El Correcto

god is dead
You're voting for Darwinian capitalism. Mankind is better than that. As far as I'm concerned one should do the very best one can, no matter the work. Go as far as you can based on your abilities if you choose to, but always try. But our system rewards some more than others and for many to succeed financially others have to come up short. If not please explain to me all the $8-$12hr jobs out there? If only all jobs paid at least $30hr and beyond without the corresponding prices that would require. They don't, never will, and some who see themselves as a winner are quick to tell others less well paid to accept their lot in life. If the system rewards some at the expense, even exploitation, of others, fine. But those who benefit the most from the system should be willing to at least assist in the retirement and care of those who helped them succeed. But too many hate having to do things like match Social Security contributions and would end the program tomorrow. My father is 83, has everything paid for and about $140k in the bank, down from one point $325k. He's a retired minister, doesn't live an extravagant life, and if he didn't have his $1800 a month Social Security he'd be broke. There are millions like him. And many millions with less SS, no savings, and barely scrape by. Social Security and Medicare are the best ideas the Democrats have ever had. Doesn't mean we should continue to spend like crazy, but a great nation can afford a social safety net that we can all benefit from.
The government robs you your entire working life, then you’re surprised you struggle in retirement. Okay. The government adds regulations and takes their cut from your employer hiring their citizens and you’re surprised more money isn’t being paid out for these jobs directly to the working class. Okay.

Like I said vote Bernie brother, nothing is stopping you.
 
The government robs you your entire working life, then you’re surprised you struggle in retirement. Okay. The government adds regulations and takes their cut from your employer hiring their citizens and you’re surprised more money isn’t being paid out for these jobs directly to the working class. Okay.

Like I said vote Bernie brother, nothing is stopping you.
Bernie is a con man he’s not a serious candidate. Every time they buy him a new house or something to shut him up and then he drops out of the race until they need him again in four years
 

vantexan

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The government robs you your entire working life, then you’re surprised you struggle in retirement. Okay. The government adds regulations and takes their cut from your employer hiring their citizens and you’re surprised more money isn’t being paid out for these jobs directly to the working class. Okay.

Like I said vote Bernie brother, nothing is stopping you.
I'm not surprised by anything chief. You haven't even been around the block once yet while people my age have seen it all before many times. Oh if only there were no taxes. Oh, if only we spent money on things that mattered, like the latest weaponry. Not on our people. Your priorities are screwed up. I don't expect cradle to grave anything. I don't believe in able bodied people living off the government. But we can take care of orphans, the disabled, the elderly. If you are so far gone that all that matters is money to you then believe me you're the problem, not the answer.
 

El Correcto

god is dead
I'm not surprised by anything chief. You haven't even been around the block once yet while people my age have seen it all before many times. Oh if only there were no taxes. Oh, if only we spent money on things that mattered, like the latest weaponry. Not on our people. Your priorities are screwed up. I don't expect cradle to grave anything. I don't believe in able bodied people living off the government. But we can take care of orphans, the disabled, the elderly. If you are so far gone that all that matters is money to you then believe me you're the problem, not the answer.
If all that mattered to me was money I wouldn’t still be living at my moms even though I make a great wage. I wouldn’t be throwing her as much money as I do and help her with her problems like my brother risking prison time to get him out of here like I did. Trust me I’m tired of being here, I could have a better life.

I’m supposed to sit here and read these non sense mental gymnastics from some old fool who couldn’t even take care of himself while living in America and what pity people? Why is it always poor people who suddenly got the biggest heart and are demanding people chip in? Then lecture those who provide for themselves and their families that they need to increase the size of bloated government programs that have historically done very little to raise people out of poverty? How many more decades do we need to watch the government pissing away money into hopeless idiots? How many poor lottery winners have you seen handed millions and instantly piss it away broke within years. I know money might alleviate suffering but it won’t solve your unhappiness it won’t fix people. That comes from within.

You are like the left when it comes to abortion, but what about incest rape!! Yeah that’s few and far between, just like the sad stories you want to focus in on. These people have had their entire lives, all lottery winners born in America, to get :censored2: sorted. Most people should accept their lot in life and get over the past, they are entitled cry babies wrecking the country because of their sorry ass decisions in life, wanting government to bail them out at the expense of the society.

It drags down the human race, it slows the real solutions to poverty, illness, starvation. Innovation.
 
I'm not surprised by anything chief. You haven't even been around the block once yet while people my age have seen it all before many times. Oh if only there were no taxes. Oh, if only we spent money on things that mattered, like the latest weaponry. Not on our people. Your priorities are screwed up. I don't expect cradle to grave anything. I don't believe in able bodied people living off the government. But we can take care of orphans, the disabled, the elderly. If you are so far gone that all that matters is money to you then believe me you're the problem, not the answer.
Soon it’s not gonna matter anyway. Everyone’s gonna be poor there’s gonna be a depression and the dollar will be close to worthless.
 

BigGuy2732

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Capitalism is the second side of the coin, shared with communism. Capitalism has led to the destruction of the family and of man seeing himself as part of a people. It is in direct opposition to the family unit.
 

newfie

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This is just like covid. I’m not gonna participate in your and the medias hysterics over this. And it makes you angry. But I already told you that Ukraine is a corrupt hellhole and a money laundering crime haven for people like the Biden family. Screw em
Not what you said. You said the chance that Soros might support the ukranians was justification enough to kill innocent ukranians. You let slip your support of Russia's efforts to kill said innocents.
 

newfie

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The media simply exploits the average person's ignorance of global affairs and naivete about how the world actually works.
Is a corrupt media a good reason to kill innocent Ukranians? Where is your compassion for humanity? If I decide I don't like your families politics is it ok to kill them?
 
We might be only 5 years from hoping the southern border is wide open going the other way. God is destroying this country for what we’ve allowed to happen there’s no doubt about that
 
Not what you said. You said the chance that Soros might support the ukranians was justification enough to kill innocent ukranians. You let slip your support of Russia's efforts to kill said innocents.
My focus is on the war with the globalists. Whatever’s going on with this Ukraine Russia business if it’s even half true is not on my radar
 
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vantexan

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If all that mattered to me was money I wouldn’t still be living at my moms even though I make a great wage. I wouldn’t be throwing her as much money as I do and help her with her problems like my brother risking prison time to get him out of here like I did. Trust me I’m tired of being here, I could have a better life.

I’m supposed to sit here and read these non sense mental gymnastics from some old fool who couldn’t even take care of himself while living in America and what pity people? Why is it always poor people who suddenly got the biggest heart and are demanding people chip in? Then lecture those who provide for themselves and their families that they need to increase the size of bloated government programs that have historically done very little to raise people out of poverty? How many more decades do we need to watch the government pissing away money into hopeless idiots? How many poor lottery winners have you seen handed millions and instantly piss it away broke within years. I know money might alleviate suffering but it won’t solve your unhappiness it won’t fix people. That comes from within.

You are like the left when it comes to abortion, but what about incest rape!! Yeah that’s few and far between, just like the sad stories you want to focus in on. These people have had their entire lives, all lottery winners born in America, to get :censored2: sorted. Most people should accept their lot in life and get over the past, they are entitled cry babies wrecking the country because of their sorry ass decisions in life, wanting government to bail them out at the expense of the society.

It drags down the human race, it slows the real solutions to poverty, illness, starvation. Innovation.
Ever hear of the working poor? Ever hear of the destruction of the middle class? The idea that everyone should make a great living with a great future is a fantasy. I'm glad you help your mom. I do too. And my wife. And help my dad by living with him. I could be perfectly comfortable on my income living overseas but have family obligations. My brother makes 3 times what I do and his wife is an RN with a profitable Airbnb sideline to boot. Yet won't give my mom anything. They're living the life. Took his wife and stepdaughter to Miami for Spring Break from Michigan yet won't give my mother a penny. So please don't tell me how selfish I am. When my dad passes I'm in South America. Might be a year, might be 5. But I give my money to them. $1840 a month pension and almost half goes to my wife and mother. And my wife's income is more than twice mine. I don't give a damn about the money. But when faced with a bill of hundreds of thousands and THEY say don't worry, we'll write it off, and the home healthcare nurse says they're doing everything pro bono, you think I'm going to say no? You think I went begging to them? They asked if I had insurance. I said no. They said don't worry. Your problem is you think you already have everything figured out. Well this old fool knows what he knows from a lifetime of reading and living. And know there's always more to learn. But not you buddy. You've got it all figured. Can't be told because you're superior. Guys like you usually find out the hard way. Good luck with that.
 

El Correcto

god is dead
Ever hear of the working poor? Ever hear of the destruction of the middle class? The idea that everyone should make a great living with a great future is a fantasy. I'm glad you help your mom. I do too. And my wife. And help my dad by living with him. I could be perfectly comfortable on my income living overseas but have family obligations. My brother makes 3 times what I do and his wife is an RN with a profitable Airbnb sideline to boot. Yet won't give my mom anything. They're living the life. Took his wife and stepdaughter to Miami for Spring Break from Michigan yet won't give my mother a penny. So please don't tell me how selfish I am. When my dad passes I'm in South America. Might be a year, might be 5. But I give my money to them. $1840 a month pension and almost half goes to my wife and mother. And my wife's income is more than twice mine. I don't give a damn about the money. But when faced with a bill of hundreds of thousands and THEY say don't worry, we'll write it off, and the home healthcare nurse says they're doing everything pro bono, you think I'm going to say no? You think I went begging to them? They asked if I had insurance. I said no. They said don't worry. Your problem is you think you already have everything figured out. Well this old fool knows what he knows from a lifetime of reading and living. And know there's always more to learn. But not you buddy. You've got it all figured. Can't be told because you're superior. Guys like you usually find out the hard way. Good luck with that.
Good you feel shame for taking the charities of others even if it is life saving, which I think you do based on the way you’re explaining this. Shows good morals. Just like the high suicide rates in middle aged white men, good morals. If I end up a dead beat like you predict I got the retirement plan laying on my desk right now. I’d rather be gone than a burden to anyone.

I’ve seen too many worthless pieces of :censored2: in my life who would be better off in the ground rather than dragging down the people who love them.(not saying that’s you in anyway) I’d hope my pride would give me the courage to do what is right.
 
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