Ukrainians be like:

Lineandinitial

Legio patria nostra
US Navy dolphins have been trained for and fulfilled that exact role since their inception. No PETA or libs chained to piers.

Sorry you didn't know about the US Navy dolphins.



Nah. It's just obvious to those reading our posts.
There you go again. Can't comprehend what was posted and thinking you represent anyone other than yourself....
Are you desperate for attention or something?

Maybe your boyfriend needs to snuggle with you more...I dunno'.

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Box Ox

Well-Known Member
There you go again. Can't comprehend what was posted and thinking you represent anyone other than yourself....
Are you desperate for attention or something?

Maybe your boyfriend needs to snuggle with you more...I dunno'.

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The biggest sign that someone knows the facts are not on their side is when they resort to personal insults.

I'm sorry this is such a difficult time for you.
 

Lineandinitial

Legio patria nostra
The best sign that someone knows the facts are not on their side is when they resort to personal insults.

I'm sorry this is such a difficult time for you.
I'm reading this and I think your posts are in here as a Case Study (do you know what those are?) You probably don't know what our fellow readers see....

You're really boring me....later

 

DriveInDriѵeOut

Inordinately Right
Until they install a Putin puppet and stopped getting their troops slaughtered by the Ukrainians I'd say they aren't winning.
Both sides are getting slaughtered.
They will accept Russian influence through Putin puppets in their government, it's their only end game.

Ukraine is no longer a Democratic country.
They've lost the regions Putin wanted.
They can't fight forever.

The legacy of this war for Putin and Biden both, will be the beginning of the end for the US petrodollar. Biden screwed us. Whether Putin planned that or not, it is a huge win for Russia.
 

UnionStrong

Sorry, but I don’t care anymore.
Both sides are getting slaughtered.
They will accept Russian influence through Putin puppets in their government, it's their only end game.

Ukraine is no longer a Democratic country.
They've lost the regions Putin wanted.
They can't fight forever.

The legacy of this war for Putin and Biden both, will be the beginning of the end for the US petrodollar. Biden screwed us. Whether Putin planned that or not, it is a huge win for Russia.
Unless we start producing our own oil again we’re doomed to become a 2nd world country.
 

Box Ox

Well-Known Member
They will accept Russian influence through Putin puppets in their government, it's their only end game.
They've lost the regions Putin wanted.

Putin lost thousands of soldiers and pieces of military equipment trying to install puppets in Kyiv and rule over the entire country. That effort was an epic fail.

And I’d bet that by the time this thing is over the Russians will also be out of southern and eastern Ukraine. Things are not going well for them.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
Putin lost thousands of soldiers and pieces of military equipment trying to install puppets in Kyiv and rule over the entire country. That effort was an epic fail.

And I’d bet that by the time this thing is over the Russians will also be out of southern and eastern Ukraine. Things are not going well for them.
Those areas can be directly resupplied from Russia. It's when the troops and supply lines are stretched too thin that the Russians have serious trouble. Plus they can fire missiles all day long all over Ukraine with their troops out of the way. Unless the West gives similar weapons to the Ukrainians in massive numbers the Donbas will turn into a meat grinder for them. Their priority now is holding onto Black Sea access.
 

Box Ox

Well-Known Member
Those areas can be directly resupplied from Russia. It's when the troops and supply lines are stretched too thin that the Russians have serious trouble. Plus they can fire missiles all day long all over Ukraine with their troops out of the way. Unless the West gives similar weapons to the Ukrainians in massive numbers the Donbas will turn into a meat grinder for them. Their priority now is holding onto Black Sea access.

The west is giving weapons to Ukraine in massive numbers and sanctions have cut off Russia's ability to obtain the parts they need to continue producing their own missiles.

Even if the supply lines of the Russians were fine, Russian military tactics are still stuck in the 1940s and it shows. They are going to lose the war. There will be no consolidation of their control over Ukraine's coastline and subsequent movement into Moldova.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
The west is giving weapons to Ukraine in massive numbers and sanctions have cut off Russia's ability to obtain the parts they need to continue producing their own missiles.

Even if the supply lines of the Russians were fine, Russian military tactics are still stuck in the 1940s and it shows. They are going to lose the war. There will be no consolidation of their control over Ukraine's coastline and subsequent movement into Moldova.
The West has been slow walking a lot of it and for example $33 billion isn't massive in military contractor terms. They don't have the aircraft or missiles or tanks the Russians have. They can inflict damage but the Russians massed in the Donbas is a different animal than trying to fight millions of Ukrainians around the country.
 

Box Ox

Well-Known Member
The West has been slow walking a lot of it and for example $33 billion isn't massive in military contractor terms. They don't have the aircraft or missiles or tanks the Russians have. They can inflict damage but the Russians massed in the Donbas is a different animal than trying to fight millions of Ukrainians around the country.

Many European countries are also sending guided artillery, AT and AA weapons. The only issue is getting it all the way across Ukraine. And that seems to be working as there are plenty of videos being posted of those weapons in use.

The Russians coming out of the east and south 1940s Soviet style directly into the grinder will not be an issue for the Ukrainians.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
Many European countries are also sending guided artillery, AT and AA weapons. The only issue is getting it all the way across Ukraine. And that seems to be working as there are plenty of videos being posted of those weapons in use.

The Russians coming out of the east and south 1940s Soviet style directly into the grinder will not be an issue for the Ukrainians.
You're being very optimistic but in no way are the Ukrainians as well armed as the Russians. Zelensky has been begging for a reason. Much of their weaponry has been used up already. I'm 100% for the Russians being driven out of Ukraine. But right now they're in a better place than a couple weeks ago. And except for the Black Sea coast and Transnistria in Moldova the Russians don't have to come out of the East and South. They've dug in.
 

DriveInDriѵeOut

Inordinately Right
Putin lost thousands of soldiers and pieces of military equipment trying to install puppets in Kyiv and rule over the entire country. That effort was an epic fail.
Oh I hadn't heard the war was over, guess I need to watch MSNBC for that breaking news.

In order for you people to be able to virtue signal and pretend you care about Ukraine, you also have to pretend Ukraine is winning. Otherwise you would have to criticize the Biden administration.
 

Box Ox

Well-Known Member
You're being very optimistic but in no way are the Ukrainians as well armed as the Russians. Zelensky has been begging for a reason. Much of their weaponry has been used up already. I'm 100% for the Russians being driven out of Ukraine. But right now they're in a better place than a couple weeks ago. And except for the Black Sea coast and Transnistria in Moldova the Russians don't have to come out of the East and South. They've dug in.
Now you're just being silly.

Appreciate your perspectives. Have bookmarked so we can revisit when the time comes. :)
 
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