dues are taking out the first paycheck of each month until u quit. Initiation fee is taken out each week until its paid off. Up here is 6 weeks of 25 dollars, dont know it everywhere else.
The initiation fee up here is $310.00. Once you are done with that, they will go back and take out the money for back union dues since they are only allowed to take out a maximum $20 a week for a part timer. I was wondering why it is that I had to pay them union dues for the months that I was'nt even in the union. The BA told me that this was because NJ is a closed shop state. Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that in a closed shop, employees are union members from the first day that they start working for the company. Is'nt that the difference between a closed shop and a union shop?
dues are taking out the first paycheck of each month until u quit. Initiation fee is taken out each week until its paid off. Up here is 6 weeks of 25 dollars, dont know it everywhere else.
What I meant by N.J being a closed shop state is that UPS in New Jersey is a closed shop. In a union shop, there is an initial waiting period during which new employees are not yet union members(in this case 30 working days.) After this waiting period, employees must join the union and begin paying union fees. In my experience, a closed shop differs from this in that a closed shop does not use non-union employees, for example, a company which hires directly from a union hall. This is why it does not make sense to me that the union will go back and charge union dues for a period of time in which they did not represent the employee. When I asked the B.A about this, I was told that if I were to have a problem with management during the waiting period and asked for help from the union, they would do nothing for me. Yet, they will eventually go back and charge union dues for this waiting period. Sounds screwed up to me!I don't know if things have changed that much since i was at UPS but that does not sound right. All UPS facilitie's are closed shop, not just NJ. And what is a closed shop state? Basically what that means is every union in nj is closed shop!! I beg to differ. I would keep prying into this. When you get hired after your probationary period (90 days)is up you then belong to a UPS union(teamsters). They then begin to take out the initiation fee which should be broken down into 3 installments. Some unions are different. But for the most part after these payments you then begin to pay your monthly dues. That should be it.
What I meant by N.J being a closed shop state is that UPS in New Jersey is a closed shop. In a union shop, there is an initial waiting period during which new employees are not yet union members(in this case 30 working days.) After this waiting period, employees must join the union and begin paying union fees. In my experience, a closed shop differs from this in that a closed shop does not use non-union employees, for example, a company which hires directly from a union hall. This is why it does not make sense to me that the union will go back and charge union dues for a period of time in which they did not represent the employee. When I asked the B.A about this, I was told that if I were to have a problem with management during the waiting period and asked for help from the union, they would do nothing for me. Yet, they will eventually go back and charge union dues for this waiting period. Sounds screwed up to me!