UPS and Automation

[Seymour Packages]

Will we still have RPCDs in 20 years? Or will it be an Amazon-esque, fly by night delivery service that has lost all respect? Top pay $25 an hour. Never say never.

 

[Red Devil]

Will we still have RPCDs in 20 years? Or will it be an Amazon-esque, fly by night delivery service that has lost all respect? Top pay $25 an hour. Never say never.

Top pay won’t likely be $25. But it might be $45 when the minimum wage is $25

 

[charm299]

And someone will still have to work on those robots and code them

Yes, skilled laborers. The problem will be robots doing unskilled work.

 

[Brownslave688]

Yes, skilled laborers. The problem will be robots doing unskilled work.

Develop a skill

 

[charm299]

Develop a skill

I don’t have time, I’m a ups driver

 

[Brownslave688]

I don’t have time, I’m a ups driver

You’ll have plenty of time after the robots take your job

 

[Spanky250]

The fed doesn’t need income tax to create money.

Increasing money supply by printing more lowers its value.

 

[Kuroh]

With how often things break and don't get fixed, I highly doubt they would be willing to spend the money to do so when it would be cheaper to have a part-timer do it.

 

[Anthropomorphic Cow]

When they can get a self driving car to work in heavy rain/snow/fog I’ll start getting worried. But even then, how is it going to know that the branch it sees is okay to brush against the vehicle, and isn’t a solid obstacle. Talk all you want about the pace of technological change there are concrete obstacles to self driving for anything other than divide highway type things.

 

[johnnyunion]

I saw , in one of the newly built hubs, automatic irregular carts trains being moved in the hub without a driver . The lead unit , (the engine) had a blue light that scanned ahead, presumably for objects. It was a bit on the slow side but it didn’t stop to talk to everyone it encountered either.

 

[Staydryitsraining]

Increasing money supply by printing more lowers its value.

Heard of apple? Heard of amazon? Money is fake, I'd say has been since the first bail out from obama. Eventually the world and society will let go of the notion that money is backed by something and at that point the fake idea of inflation will no longer exist and then money will be printed for basic income.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

And someone will still have to work on those robots and code them

Why can't other robots do that?

 

[Red Devil]

Heard of apple? Heard of amazon? Money is fake, I'd say has been since the first bail out from obama.

Money has been fake ever since we decided that shiny metals were a good stand-in for bartering.

 

[Yeet]

With how often things break and don't get fixed, I highly doubt they would be willing to spend the money to do so when it would be cheaper to have a part-timer do it.

Is that all, stranga’?

 

[polyp]

I saw , in one of the newly built hubs, automatic irregular carts trains being moved in the hub without a driver . The lead unit , (the engine) had a blue light that scanned ahead, presumably for objects. It was a bit on the slow side but it didn’t stop to talk to everyone it encountered either.

Ours went away after running into a parked package car.

 

[Over70irregs]

I keep hearing that, yet every time I ask one simple question, I get a blank stare.

Where is the money going to come from if nobody has a job with income to tax because they have all been automated away?

Basic income (digital $ they are printing....) . Assigned tasks.

 

[Over70irregs]

Heard of apple? Heard of amazon? Money is fake, I'd say has been since the first bail out from obama. Eventually the world and society will let go of the notion that money is backed by something and at that point the fake idea of inflation will no longer exist and then money will be printed for basic income.

(The Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008, often called the "bank bailout of 2008," was proposed by Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson, passed by the 110th United States Congress, and signed into law by President George W. Bush.) Basic income is here now.

 

[Shift Inhibit]

I saw , in one of the newly built hubs, automatic irregular carts trains being moved in the hub without a driver . The lead unit , (the engine) had a blue light that scanned ahead, presumably for objects. It was a bit on the slow side but it didn’t stop to talk to everyone it encountered either.

We have 4 in our building. Complete junk . They break constantly, always need maintenance. But hey , it eliminated 4 pt irreg tram drivers !!! Now they pay outside technicians $$$$ to come out 3 times a week & service these pos’.

 

[Indecisi0n]

How long will it take for UPS to eventually automate the majority of its jobs away? 15 years? 25? 30? I have been researching some pretty amazing things in regards to automation and what is on the horizon. The drone delivery system is small and useless, for now. Self-driving cars/trucks still carry too much liability. But the kinks will eventually be worked out by the coders and programmers. As soon as enough money has changed hands in D.C, legislation will come down allowing a complete and affordable rollout of self-driving vehicles. I think the first major cut will be feeders/sleeper teams. It will start with the long haul operations out West. A driver will roll along to monitor the system and operate near point A and point B. Next I think the company will attempt to roll out a system of robotics to load vehicles. The one job I can see hanging on for the long haul is package delivery. There are still too many variables in running a route efficiently, pick ups, diverting to deliver air, call tags, etc. This company is brutal when it comes to downsizing, even to its own detriment (PVDs). I hope the Teamsters see the writing on the wall and include strong enough language to protect our jobs.

Guys like you make me laugh. You do literally zero research and spread all this fearmongering bull.
Automation is going to happen but not on a scale that you guys think.

 

[Seymour Packages]

Guys like you make me laugh. You do literally zero research and spread all this fearmongering bull*.
Automation is going to happen but not on a scale that you guys think.

Lol ok. This company will shed excess human components as soon as fiscally possible.