UPS chairman's total compensation rises to $13.1M

[Lineandinitial]

A fair day's pay for a fair day's work. If the company is successful and apparentley it its, then we should all share in the profits .It took everyone's efforts to get the company where it is.Once again common sense should apply.Anarchy and socialism are not the answer.
Radom thoughts by Stewie on the subject.

Sorry, can't hve it both ways. Perhaps you want to share in the giving back??? No pay raises, health care payments, minimal 401k match, etc. Don't go off on who's to blame for having us pay for health care, bad management or other such diversion. Why do you deserve a share of the profits, but you don't share the other parts of it?

 

[Catatonic]

Sorry, can't hve it both ways. Perhaps you want to share in the giving back??? No pay raises, health care payments, minimal 401k match, etc. Don't go off on who's to blame for having us pay for health care, bad management or other such diversion. Why do you deserve a share of the profits, but you don't share the other parts of it?

Perhaps you should elaborate on your thoughts here ... I have no idea what you are referring to or what your point is.

 

[PT Stewie]

Sorry, can't hve it both ways. Perhaps you want to share in the giving back??? No pay raises, health care payments, minimal 401k match, etc. Don't go off on who's to blame for having us pay for health care, bad management or other such diversion. Why do you deserve a share of the profits, but you don't share the other parts of it?

First of all I have stock so I do share in the profits. Next the only match I get in the 401K is what I put in which is 45% pretax and 5% post ,plus $40.00 in the discount stock program per week not awarded to me as a bounus. . None of which is given to me by UPS I earn it with a fair days work. I have never mentioned bad management in this thread so go back and read all the posts again. And last of all why should I give anything back when UPS is making a good profit. Apparentley if upper management "The CEO can get an increase to 13 million their should be no reason for give backs.
PS I understand give backs I personally took an $8K a year cut plus my 401K match at my full time job because the economy went in the dumper. The people on my staff only lost some paid sick days.

 

[PT Stewie]

Perhaps you should elaborate on your thoughts here ... I have no idea what you are referring to or what your point is.

Thx Hoax!

 

[satellitedriver]

As Hobbes observed in "De Cive",
Ostendo primo conditionem hominum extra societatem civilem (quam conditionem appellare liceat statum naturae) aliam non esse quam bellum omnium contra omnes; atque in eo bello jus esse omnibus in omnia.
"I show in the first place that the state of men without civil society (which state may be called the state of nature) is none other than a war of all against all; and that in that war, all have a right to all things."
In my parlance, and belief, is this paraphrase of the "Three Musketeers".
All against one, and one against all.

 

[Inthegame]

As Hobbes observed in "De Cive",
Ostendo primo conditionem hominum extra societatem civilem (quam conditionem appellare liceat statum naturae) aliam non esse quam bellum omnium contra omnes; atque in eo bello jus esse omnibus in omnia.
"I show in the first place that the state of men without civil society (which state may be called the state of nature) is none other than a war of all against all; and that in that war, all have a right to all things."
In my parlance, and belief, is this paraphrase of the "Three Musketeers".
All against one, and one against all.

Antithesis spaceman, not paraphrase. Antithesis, which is latin for antithesis. Lingua, opinio...fraudem!

 

[Lineandinitial]

Perhaps you should elaborate on your thoughts here ... I have no idea what you are referring to or what your point is.

Oh come on!! You can't follow what I mean?? Here's what Stewie quoted: "If the company is profitable than WE should share......" The door swings both ways. If you want to share, share it all, not just the good parts. If the company says "No raise, no 401K match, etc", should the union still get them and THEN share in the profits? Gimme' a break!

 

[Catatonic]

Oh come on!! You can't follow what I mean?? Here's what Stewie quoted: "If the company is profitable than WE should share......" The door swings both ways. If you want to share, share it all, not just the good parts. If the company says "No raise, no 401K match, etc", should the union still get them and THEN share in the profits? Gimme' a break!

That's somewhat clearer ... thanks for trying.

I assumed you were in management but management usually has to be able to communicate their thoughts clearly.

I am confused.

 

[washington57]

As long as I don't have to pay for my health insurance and I get raises that keep up with the cost of living then I couldn't care less what he makes a year.

For the people saying that he makes too much: OK, how much should he make then?

 

[anonymous6]

very reasonable. it will only take us 150 years to match his one.

 

[PT Stewie]

Yup and the guy never unloaded,sorted,loaded,or delivered a package.Did not even start with the company. Came over in a aquisition. For that matter neither did Hoffa. So we are trusting the future to these people ? Just some food for thought.

 

[bigblu 2 you]

As long as I don't have to pay for my health insurance and I get raises that keep up with the cost of living then I couldn't care less what he makes a year.

For the people saying that he makes too much: OK, how much should he make then?

his pay should be based on how efficient our daily sort & load numbers are,because you all well know,numbers tell the story best. oh and by the way ,i have it from a good inside source he kicked a pony at a petting zoo.

 

[Lineandinitial]

That's somewhat clearer ... thanks for trying.

I assumed you were in management but management usually has to be able to communicate their thoughts clearly.

I am confused.

Management requires an aptitude for understanding. I'm still really surprised you are confused (unless you're playing the dumb game to bait me)

 

[Kfr1976]

You can get rich, YOU just need to come up with a company or an idea that is marketable. I'm sure if you were making 13.1 million you would just pay yourself minimum wage and give the rest away. Last nights election results proved sadly that we are now in a country full of people that just want wealth handed to them. Sweat and blood? If you're bleeding at work it may be time to retire or at least be a little less melodramatic.

 

[Kfr1976]

I'm sure they will pluck an unloader out of the operation next time they need a CEO.

 

[Dracula]

He needs all of that money. If I were him, I would spend a huge chunk of it on some public speaking lessons. Have you ever heard this speak? Hell, only 13.1 mil? He's got to worth five times that much....

 

[AKCoverMan]

If you take 100% of the CEOs pay and split it up among the rank and file it would amount to pennys per hour. So there is no sense in pointing to him and saying that's the problem.

Full time employees get a fair share of the revenue we earn for the company with our hard work in my opinion However the pay for the part time employees has to be fixed. We bring in $50bln a year we can and should share the wealth with the part time work force.

 

[Nimnim]

If you take 100% of the CEOs pay and split it up among the rank and file it would amount to pennys per hour. So there is no sense in pointing to him and saying that's the problem.

Full time employees get a fair share of the revenue we earn for the company with our hard work in my opinion However the pay for the part time employees has to be fixed. We bring in $50bln a year we can and should share the wealth with the part time work force.

The question becomes how?

I know many a pt person on my shift who won't enforce the 3.5 hour guarantee because they're just here for the benefits. I don't have a problem with people occasionally working less because they have something planed or not feeling well, but we have a majority of the inbound daily taking less than 3.5.

As a company we have a hard time justifying higher pay when a good percentage, probably majority, are not here for the pay but for the benefits. I want a FT position but they're not being offered to PT here so a pay boost would be nice. At the very least an opportunity for hours even if not FT would be nice, but it's still not offered. Or even available if I press my seniority and I'm on the first page of my shift's seniority, only like 4 get the extra hours.

 

[packageguy]

UPS chairman's total compensation rises to $13.1M

He works hard too..

 

[Gazelle]

13.1 million is actually quite low. For 2012 he is ranked 243 among CEO's in compensation...