UPS is having a party right now

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by FIST, Nov 18, 2007.

  1. FIST

    FIST Leanitus

    I talked to a few supervisors and they are laughing about the contract passing. They love how the Union sold us out. It makes me mad how they joke about the whole thing.:angry:
  2. Brav989

    Brav989 New Member

    I asked this before but never got a response...what happens if one or more regions does not pass this contract? Does it still apply or how does it work?
  3. FIST

    FIST Leanitus

    The master cannot pass until the sups pass
  4. Brav989

    Brav989 New Member

    So then if one region decides to hold out then the entire contract cannot pass? Good news no?
  5. FIST

    FIST Leanitus

    yes, fight the power:biting:
  6. BrownShark

    BrownShark Banned


    Each piece of the agreement is separate from the other. If the national passes, and ANY RIDER or SUPPLEMENTAL fails, the whole thing gets put on hold until each RIDER or SUPPLEMENT is renegotiated.

    If a rider fails, it will have no bearing on the master, however, the master cannot go into effect until all parts of the agreement are settled.

  7. FIST

    FIST Leanitus

    Thanks brownshark, may I say MR. Brown Shark, I heard MR. A showed up at the last membership meeting. Down with H!
  8. Griff

    Griff Active Member

    Judging by the 804 turnout, they have the solidarity to possibly keep this contract on hold all by themselves.
  9. 705red

    705red Browncafe Steward

    Hopefully they can hold out to the next ibt election! That way we will keep our current contract with no raises! I understand why 804 voted it down, they have to borrow 18 million from ups and repay with 10 cents a year going back to ups to float their ups sep fund.
  10. FIST

    FIST Leanitus

    we admire you guys out their, you have a real union.
  11. tieguy

    tieguy Banned

    they can only hold out on the supplements . The national is a done deal.
  12. tieguy

    tieguy Banned

    actually the real union is the ones that voted.
  13. 25yrvet

    25yrvet New Member

    That's 'funny' about your ctr mgt laughing at labor. In my ctr we laugh at mgt for the way they are treated by their superiors. The 2 f/t mgt that I talk to (ctr mgr & on car) wish they were still driving. A quote from the on car, "I'd work 13 hrs a day and commute an hour each way" insteada bein' in mgt.
  14. browned out

    browned out Active Member

    The national is a done deal. It can not be put into effect until all supplements are passed. If 804 and the other locals don't settle soon; I am sure they will get another threatening letter to vote yes before Jan 01 2008.

    That is unless the Teamsters ammend their constitution or find another loophole to get the whole contract enacted by Jan 1st. They probably will.
  15. tieguy

    tieguy Banned

    I don't know. I seem to remember a few locals holding out every time we have one of these contracts. I understand 804's concerns with the pension. Not sure why Central pa went astray of the overall plan. Whenever the supps got settled the national goes in as written without changes.
  16. FIST

    FIST Leanitus

    Try about 30
  17. local804

    local804 Well-Known Member

    That is just one of the reasons Red but you are correct. On a local level, there are alot of takeback from what we have had over the past years. People just need to understand that this isnt a F U just to knock down a contract. Its a F U for all the take backs we have to give that some people never have.
  18. Brown Dog

    Brown Dog Brown since 81

  19. steamroll

    steamroll Member

    call hoffa claus, he gave ups the best xmas present ever
  20. steamroll

    steamroll Member

    remeber in 97 yea