UPS/Teamster 401k...Prudential to a Dreyfus self managed account...+22.86% for 2012

brownboyups

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Re: UPS/Teamster 401k...Prudential to a Dreyfus self managed account...+22.86% for 20

brownboy----you said that you have over $20K in your trading account---is it safe to assume that you have no personal debt?

i am debt free...i have 20k in trading account because a sold some stock

spent 10k today on stock symbol NYCB and sold
another...back to 20k
 
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brownboyups

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Re: UPS/Teamster 401k...Prudential to a Dreyfus self managed account...+22.86% for 20

dow jones -216.95...S&P 500 -22.48
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went buying today

785 shares of NYCB (bank) $12.96...on sale $.25 cent dividend
history of dividends
NYCB Historical Prices | New York Community Bancorp, Inc Stock - Yahoo! Finance
history of earnings
Stock Market Quotes & Stock Research
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440 shares of NRP (coal) $21.21...very fair price $.55 cent dividend
history of dividends
NRP Historical Prices | Natural Resources Partners LP Stock - Yahoo! Finance
Natural Resource Partners LP Dividends NRP | DailyFinance
history of earnings
Stock Market Quotes & Stock Research (awesome)

market is throwing away dividend paying stocks...awesome for anyone who invests in dividend stocks
$20,000 investment today = $1,800 per year in dividends

prices a going to get a lot better for other dividend stocks
i feel the NYCB/NRP are a great value at these prices

never panic...the green light will go back on and stocks will be bought up again
 

brownboyups

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Re: UPS/Teamster 401k...Prudential to a Dreyfus self managed account...+22.86% for 20

market bounced right back +207.50 on friday
on the jobs report around +175,000 jobs created last month
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it will take +350,000 a month for the next 3 years to get unemployment to 6%
isn't going to happen....why is this important...QE and the interest rate
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my opinion...QE and interest rates are going to be around and low for a long time

my current holdings
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401k +12.10%...S&P 500 +15.23%

+14,764.87 YTD

$27.45...AI...302 shares...+$1890.72....+29.55%...dividend $264.25 (Q)
$22.50...NRP...440 shares...+$480.17....+5.10%...dividend $242.00 (Q)
$13.22...NYCB...5927 shares...-$438.34....-0.56%...dividend $1,481.75 (Q)
$10.26...PSEC...2035 shares...-$1,349.20....-6.07%...dividend $224.10 (M)
$35.45...AT&T...452 shares...+907.61....+6.00%...dividend $203.40 (Q)
$6.93...NYMT...938 shares...+575.27....+9.71%...dividend $253.26 (Q)

5927 shares of NYCB ($78,354.94) moves the percentage in my account
AAA+++ bank (stock)
average cost $13.29 per share
this is my big bet (investment)

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no money in my trading account unless i sell something
​+3k in dividends come in July/August
last 3 weeks (fed speech) and caused my accounts to go down a lot
starting to come back
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scottrade account
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NYCB...785 shares bought at $12.965 (like that price a lot)...dividend $196.25 (Q)
PSEC...1697 shares...dividend $186.67 (M)
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the year is half over...now got around +7,500 in dividends coming for the next 6 months
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never panic...market will always go up and down (sometimes in hard corrections)


 
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beentheredonethat

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Re: UPS/Teamster 401k...Prudential to a Dreyfus self managed account...+22.86% for 20

OK, the market is making me nervous. We've had a good runup during this year. However, the stock dropped a bit in the last few weeks. My concern is that we are in for another freefall similar to what we had in 08. Now, I've got 15 years or more before retirement, so part of me thinks to just leave it in and long term I'll be ahead (in theory). However, with experiencing 2008 and having my 401K become a 201B frightened me. So the question is do I pull out the majority of money and put it on sidelines? Do I leave it virtually all in (I usually keep about 5% in cash for a buying opportunity)? Do I go for inverse funds where they rise when the market dives?
 

brownboyups

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Re: UPS/Teamster 401k...Prudential to a Dreyfus self managed account...+22.86% for 20

OK, the market is making me nervous. We've had a good runup during this year. However, the stock dropped a bit in the last few weeks. My concern is that we are in for another freefall similar to what we had in 08. Now, I've got 15 years or more before retirement, so part of me thinks to just leave it in and long term I'll be ahead (in theory). However, with experiencing 2008 and having my 401K become a 201B frightened me. So the question is do I pull out the majority of money and put it on sidelines? Do I leave it virtually all in (I usually keep about 5% in cash for a buying opportunity)? Do I go for inverse funds where they rise when the market dives?

NO 2008 collapse...banks have too much money in reserve...never gonna happen right now
2008 was as close to the 1929 crash as it gets...should be a long time before that happens again
but it will happen again (hopefully when i'm dead)

i'm just riding it out...my accounts down around -10k in 4 weeks
i get paid to wait

only you can decide what to do with all your investments....you know what i say...never panic

Benben always has great insight into what's going on with the markets
 
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40andOut

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Re: UPS/Teamster 401k...Prudential to a Dreyfus self managed account...+22.86% for 20

OK, the market is making me nervous. We've had a good runup during this year. However, the stock dropped a bit in the last few weeks. My concern is that we are in for another freefall similar to what we had in 08. Now, I've got 15 years or more before retirement, so part of me thinks to just leave it in and long term I'll be ahead (in theory). However, with experiencing 2008 and having my 401K become a 201B frightened me. So the question is do I pull out the majority of money and put it on sidelines? Do I leave it virtually all in (I usually keep about 5% in cash for a buying opportunity)? Do I go for inverse funds where they rise when the market dives?

I share your concern. Do what you see fit, but I am out for now.
 

Benben

Working on a new degree, Masters in BS Detecting!
Re: UPS/Teamster 401k...Prudential to a Dreyfus self managed account...+22.86% for 20

I still stand by the fact that every year for over 50 years the market has seen at least 1 drop of 10% in the market. We all knew a market correction was comming. There is no election this year to screw with the market. The job's report last week was solid. The only news of note for domestic stocks was the Fed releasing their minutes. My read on that is this; The fed will keep "testing" the waters with news of backing off the QE's untill their "news" doesn't rattle the market and then we'll see a wind down of QE. What is QE? It's the buying of mortages. Many complain that the Fed is just printing paper money. It is actually buying debt that is secured by physical property generating income through interest. You say printing money... I say making money with collateral.

Outside the Prudential 401K, 90% of my picks are long term. I try to only choose solid dividend stocks that are trading for below book value that have a good or great dividend history. The dividend is my insurance against the Wall Street crowd trying to make a fast buck by buying something that they "think" someone will pay more for at a later time. Without a dividend what exactly are you "buying" when you purchase stock?

Stocks are down the past 2-3 weeks but good god man, since the first part of December we are up 17-30% and at absolute historic levels. We needed a breather and thats what we are seeing now.
 
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40andOut

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Re: UPS/Teamster 401k...Prudential to a Dreyfus self managed account...+22.86% for 20

Market fundementals are not supporting this year's rally. You are right that QE is what has propped up this bubble. Smart money is bailing out...

Beware: Market insiders are selling...MSN MONEY
Beware: Market insiders are selling - - MSN Money

QE ends...rally ends.
When the Fed Stops QE, the Market Will Crash | InvestorPlace

I am sure you know a great deal more about the markets than I do.
But what I see is a nation and market that has lost it's moral compass and common sense.
That is why I don't think the market will continue to repeat it's normal rally and correction cycles. I believe 2008 will be tame compared to what we are facing. QE delayed, and will eventually exasperate, the economic reckoning we are facing.
 
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Benben

Working on a new degree, Masters in BS Detecting!
Re: UPS/Teamster 401k...Prudential to a Dreyfus self managed account...+22.86% for 20

EFC...Take a look, I like it's financials and it's yield and is trading well under it's book value. Rated as a buy to a strong buy.

Currently saving up for the next stupid market drop.
 

Benben

Working on a new degree, Masters in BS Detecting!
Re: UPS/Teamster 401k...Prudential to a Dreyfus self managed account...+22.86% for 20

25plus, the country has had a problem with its compass for a long time now and common sense is not so common. These are nothing new.


I honestly feel that if an investor is in it for the trade, or rather in it for a fast buck, then there is alot to be fearfull of. But if you do your research and invest in quality dividend stocks most will do fine. Take EFC for example. High yield with a medium to high risk. Pays out a 13% divi. If the market drops 10% I am still up 3% at the end of the year.

If you are in the market you are doing only one of 2 things(options excluded).1. you are betting that what you buy today you can sell to someone else at a later date for more than what you paid for it, in other words you are TRADING. or, 2. You are investing your money in companies that pay a dividend, UPS being an EXCELLENT example. With divi stocks your money works for you to generate an income without reguards to what others think the stock is "worth."

I have a full time job that I absolutely love. I have no desire to compete with "traders" who do it for a living and thats all they do. I have very little desire to make a fast buck. But I also would like the money I work hard for and set aside for later in life to actually do something other than sit in a savings account earning .01%. Divi stocks let me sleep very, very well at night.

If you want excitement go to a casino or take 10% of your money and "speculate." Invest the other 90% in divi stocks or DGI stocks if you are closer to retirement. Use tax sheltered accounts for retirement as much as possible and plan ahead. Whats the point in working hard for 30+ years just to sit around the house because when you can no longer work and all you have is SS and thus can not afford to do anything or go anywhere???

Personaly, I want to travel EVERYWHERE and see EVERYTHING.
 

beentheredonethat

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Well to be a bit on safe side, I moved about 25% of my sma portfolio to cash. I got rid of some riskier funds and lowered my stake in 2 stocks (ford and staples). I still have a large chunk in the market and may buy if stocks take a dip. I'm just fearful of another 2008 collapse. I just don't see the economy doing well and when obamacare hits full force next year I see big problems with the market.
 

brownboyups

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Re: UPS/Teamster 401k...Prudential to a Dreyfus self managed account...+22.86% for 20

dow jones -216.95...S&P 500 -22.48
-----------------------------------------
went buying today

785 shares of NYCB (bank) $12.96...on sale $.25 cent dividend
history of dividends
NYCB Historical Prices | New York Community Bancorp, Inc Stock - Yahoo! Finance
history of earnings
Stock Market Quotes & Stock Research
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440 shares of NRP (coal) $21.21...very fair price $.55 cent dividend
history of dividends
NRP Historical Prices | Natural Resources Partners LP Stock - Yahoo! Finance
Natural Resource Partners LP Dividends NRP | DailyFinance
history of earnings
Stock Market Quotes & Stock Research (awesome)

market is throwing away dividend paying stocks...awesome for anyone who invests in dividend stocks
$20,000 investment today = $1,800 per year in dividends

prices a going to get a lot better for other dividend stocks
i feel the NYCB/NRP are a great value at these prices

never panic...the green light will go back on and stocks will be bought up again

NYCB...$13.61...+$499
NRP...$22.50...+$480

NYMT...$7.05...announced a $.27 cent dividend
New York Mortgage Trust Declares a Pair of Dividends - DailyFinance

gotta buy when the market want to dump great stocks

13 days ago i made these 2 investments...i like the return so far

market is coming back...accounts are filling back up with cash
hope everyone else is making money

RNO...$13.74...i bought $37,000 worth at $13.80 so not a bad price
going to $14.70 as we know


 
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brownboyups

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Re: UPS/Teamster 401k...Prudential to a Dreyfus self managed account...+22.86% for 20

long term investors pick up deals when the market turns

market dropped about 500 points and has come back 318 points

investors/hedge funds are buying on the dips

we are not in a 2008 atmosphere...not even close

​buy good dividend stocks when there are on sale
 

Benben

Working on a new degree, Masters in BS Detecting!
Re: UPS/Teamster 401k...Prudential to a Dreyfus self managed account...+22.86% for 20

High divi stocks, read mREITS and BDCs, are going on sale tomorrow about an hour before the closing bell. The sale should last a few days at most before the market realizes it's mistake.

Thats what my crystal ball told me today.

I am looking to possibly add to my possitions in DX, EFC, NYMT or OXLC. PSEC I added to last month or it'd be in the list also. My Wildest dream would be getting in on AI at my price point!!!!
 

brownboyups

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Re: UPS/Teamster 401k...Prudential to a Dreyfus self managed account...+22.86% for 20

fed chairman (Ben Bernanke) gives a speech at 2pm
last time (a month ago) my accounts got crushed
since then they have come back but not all the way

should be a wild day in the markets

YTD...401k...+15.51% (+$18,882.22)
YTD...S&P 500...+15.82%

if the market tanks stocks go back on sale
won't have money (dividends) until the end of August...+3k
just a watcher until then unless i sell something (probably won't sell...like everything right now)

​good luck to all

 
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Returntosender

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Re: UPS/Teamster 401k...Prudential to a Dreyfus self managed account...+22.86% for 20

Bought ZLC at 3 sold 9. Took that profit bought DDD "3D printers" Miss the boat on CZR and LUV. Hit on SHFL, taking that profit and planning on going to Vegas, drink free beer, and play some three card poker.
Looking at MGM for a dip.
 

brownboyups

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Re: UPS/Teamster 401k...Prudential to a Dreyfus self managed account...+22.86% for 20

RNO $13.60

next dividend announcement around 7-25-13

nothing wrong with that price...should rise a $1+ from here

my problem...fully invested
 

brownboyups

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Re: UPS/Teamster 401k...Prudential to a Dreyfus self managed account...+22.86% for 20

dow -353.87...down around -700 points in last 3 days

never panic...stocks on sale will always be bought up again

will be surprised if the market isn't up friday



 
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